Well I wondering if anyone has done this ? I know it'll **** off a lot of rotary guys but oh ******* well ! The jdm F-20C has more hp than the stock TT 13B RX7 motor and a 1000 times more reliable ! My original plan has to do a LS-1 swap than I figued what the heck do a F-20C swap instead lighter swap & cheaper ! Also I'm going to boost it ! I bought the car with a blown weed whacker in it ! And wouldn't consider doing a rotary at all !

 

damn I was gonna say LS1 and T56 combo but you don't wanna do that. Don't know about the F20c swap though.

 

it's got to be possible. Ive seen an SR20DET in an FC...

 

Ls-1 was my first choice then I checked around and that would've been the best power for the money but they're getting pretty expensive at $3500-4000 for motor/tranny swap then I'll need $1500 in extra parts to make the swap fit and work ! And have 350hp at the crank and gain 60lbs total over the rotary swap ! Then the nissan 20 motor came to mind ! And its been done before. But i can get a honda F-20C swap for less money and have more horsepower than the nissan swap and and only be around 70hp less than the ls-1 swap and about 180lbs less than ls-1 swap ! Also with a lil' boost it'll still be cheaper than the ls-1 swap and very reliable !

 

FD + 572 Crate =

 

It would be much easier to make that car REALLY fast with an LS1 under the hood.

 

I think there are better choices. You can get an LT1 for much less than a LS1 and still have 300hp and gobs of torque (soimething which will be sorely lacking in an F20c). A step down from that would be an aluminum-headed L98 TPI. The ultra-budget route would be a 5.0; you could get the engine for a few hundred bucks and use the left over money to build it up. The V8's won't be quite as light as an F20c, but it will be cheaper to make more power with them.

Either way good luck with your swap

 

The reason I wouldn't consider the LT-1 is the cast iorn block ! The LS-1 swap will run me roughly around $5500 to $6000 thats with installing it myself! And have 350 crank hp and be a mid 11 sec car ! And the parts and labor to build the Ls-1 motor to 530 hp at the crank is roughly around $4000 ! Where in the F-20C motor/tranny/ecu and harnesss,mounts and custom driveshaft will run me around $3200 and to boost the F-20C with full turbo setup and A engine management system would run me an extra $4500 and get me around 700hp at the crank on roughly 28lbs of boost ! So the LS-1 built would run me roughly $10,000 compared to the F-20C boosted @ roughly $7700 and about 180lbs less in weight !


Modified by AutoTrenz702 at 3:12 AM 1/23/2006

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AutoTrenz702 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The reason I wouldn't consider the LT-1 is the cast iorn block ! The LS-1 swap will run me roughly around $5500 to $6000 thats with installing it myself! And have 350 crank hp and be a mid 11 sec car ! And the parts and labor to build the Ls-1 motor to 530 hp at the crank is roughly around $4000 ! Where in the F-20C motor/tranny/ecu and harnesss,mounts and custom driveshaft will run me around $3200 and to boost the F-20C with full turbo setup and A engine management system would run me an extra $4500 and get me around 700hp at the crank on roughly 28lbs of boost ! So the LS-1 built would run me roughly $10,000 compared to the F-20C boosted @ roughly $7700 and about 180lbs less in weight !


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There are so many more expenses going turbo than just the turbo kit alone. I don't know where you got yoru numbers, but my buddy is doing an LS1/FC for 8000 or so total, including the car and selling the old car parts.

 

Trust me on the price on the ls-1 swap I've owned my shop for 10 years and I get all my turbo set-ups either complete or piece them together ! And its a lot cheaper than you'll ever imagine with brand new parts including new pistons,rods,bearings,standalone engine management,injectors,fuel pump,intercooler,ic piping,turbo (T-70),manifold ! And for the $8000 your buddy is going to spend hes still going to have 330-350 crank hp ! Roughly about 270-280whp ! Don't get me wrong its a great swap but I can double that whp with less money spent and have a better power to weight ratio ! Also its a lil' more unique ! I've owned and built a 1991 astrovan yes I said astrovan airbagged on 18"rims 18x8's front and 18x9.5's rear with 465hp @ the crank without the 250 shot of laughing gas ! So roughly 715hp @ the crank on the bottle ! That was built with a gm ZZ430 with milled heads/cam/intake and tuned !

 

oh, my, god...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AutoTrenz702 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Trust me on the price on the ls-1 swap I've owned my shop for 10 years and I get all my turbo set-ups either complete or piece them together ! And its a lot cheaper than you'll ever imagine with brand new parts including new pistons,rods,bearings,standalone engine management,injectors,fuel pump,intercooler,ic piping,turbo (T-70),manifold ! And for the $8000 your buddy is going to spend hes still going to have 330-350 crank hp ! Roughly about 270-280whp ! Don't get me wrong its a great swap but I can double that whp with less money spent and have a better power to weight ratio ! Also its a lil' more unique ! I've owned and built a 1991 astrovan yes I said astrovan airbagged on 18"rims 18x8's front and 18x9.5's rear with 465hp @ the crank without the 250 shot of laughing gas ! So roughly 715hp @ the crank on the bottle ! That was built with a gm ZZ430 with milled heads/cam/intake and tuned ! </TD></TR></TABLE>

vid or pic or i say b.s.

 

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Thats the gay-est **** i ever heard!!! whats next a chevy 454 in a daewoo? what a waste of money, time, and good motors.

 

Yo ! Broke azz can call b.s. All the expletive you want ! Bring yo azz to vegas ! And you find out what I'm talking about ! Also jackazz before I put the zz430 in the van I had a 4.3 syclone in the van and it was too much of a hassle with the wiring and space for the turbo intercooler so I sold the syclone swap to a good friend and bought the zz430 ! Be happy with yor slow azz 90 civic before you call bullshit ! Actually I have 2 words for expletive OFF! No pics or no vids for your beyouce azz ! Beyounce means b__ch ! Get a clue before you open your sorry azz mouth !

 

your just mad cuz you dropped alot of money and time into a POS van and no one cared or even gave you props for that wack swap so now your all hurt trying to figure out what to do next to get attention, because obviously you never got it growing up. keep doing gay swaps and please stay in vegas.

 

There's always some azzhole who has to try to get some attention on someone elses topic ! But keep your slow azz d16 and suck a dick ! You could've keep your negative feedback in your trailer but since you want to post bullshit behind your computer you bitch ! Get a job and a clue than get life ! And maybe you can have money to build cars !

 

you are a moron! i have a DA it does not! have a 1.6 single cam. but yeah i need to get a job to fix my car yeah good one? whatever fool your lame and your aerostar is lame. well here is some positive feedback for you... DaMn Yo DaT F20c iN a Rx-7 WiLl Be MaD tIzZiGhT Yo CaNt WaIt 2 C dAt SoN!!! MaD pRiZzOpS yO... PeAcE sOn!!!
there happy?

 

i say you get a new rotary and have it street ported
my good friend is putting out 325 whp on bnr stage 2's on stock boost(10 psi) rotary motors are a force to be recconed with...if you dont take good care of it of course the ****** thing is gonna blow if you maintain it like any other car a new motor will be fine

 

Well the plan has went back to a ls-1 as of this morning there is a 2002 z-28 which is hit hard from the back at my friends tow yard where he works and I'm getting it friday ! So both the 13-b and the f-20c are not in the picture ! $3500 for the motor/tranny/ecu/and the complete harness with no wires cut ! I'm ordering the motor mount kit and driveline this week !

 

god this is the funniest thread ever. im so tempted to post this on rx7 club, though i like this forum too much to ruin it with all the traffic it will attract. anywho, good luck on the swap, hope the car doesnt fall on top of you when your underneith it

 

Another azzhole on honda-tech ! Don't worry about the car falling on me cause your mom will be the one holding the car up on her back and she's pretty strong ! Post this where ever the expletive you want ! Go build your single cam 84 crx or something ! Just because I can build what I want to build that's my choice ! If you had money and ideas you would build something you really wanted to ! And by way ******* I've built and own(d) more hondas and supras than you'll sit in ! ******* Lil Window Shop'r ! Don't you have homework to do or something ? Get off the internet and goto school !

 

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Good choice. I garuntee you won't be disappointed with this engine--I can only imagine how much fun it would be in a 2700lb car, considering how much of a good time it gives me in my 3500lb tank.

 

Go with the LS1, my buddy just put down 364 rwhp on an LS1 with a lid and Loudmouth catback. This is no B.S. just got it dynoed on saturday. Cam and head package and that car will fly.

 

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Sorry, but that number with those mods is as close to impossible as you can get. An LS6 might put down that much, but not an LS1--the dyno must have been off or something.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RynoDyno312 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Sorry, but that number with those mods is as close to impossible as you can get. An LS6 might put down that much, but not an LS1--the dyno must have been off or something.</TD></TR></TABLE> I thought that too but some of the cars came with the LS6 shortblock I'm told and I think we got one. It was dentonating a little bit too, so I think the timing was massively advancing, trying to figure out the problem.

Correction: 354 hp and 364 tq, gonna re-dyno since he also thinks thinks the dyno was fucked.


Modified by 91B16HF at 8:33 PM 2/2/2006