saw this on H-T and also E-bay
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1453964

Something I would like for my car, but want some feedback on it first prior to purchasing. I'm scared to be a guinea pig....

 

Cant help you with the 4.64 but here is a link to a 4.85 final drive. Hope that helps.

http://preludeonline.com/showt...drive

 

i like my 4.71 circuitworkx....its a little whiney, but the teeth are super beefy so im confident that i wont break it.....

i would be scared as well....better let some rookies buy it first and see what they say....

 

Well, it seems that I will be a guinea pig this time. I have just received mine and am soon going to istall it (as soon as I get the bearings for an LSD, which is going toghether with the final drive).
I just liked the price very much, especially the fact that it was 475 USD shipped also to Europe, and its impossible to get any better deal here.
But anyways, after visual inspection, it seems to be of a decent quality, so I hope it would work well. I well let you know as soon as I get it installed.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PreludEst &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well, it seems that I will be a guinea pig this time. I have just received mine and am soon going to istall it (as soon as I get the bearings for an LSD, which is going toghether with the final drive).
I just liked the price very much, especially the fact that it was 475 USD shipped also to Europe, and its impossible to get any better deal here.
But anyways, after visual inspection, it seems to be of a decent quality, so I hope it would work well. I well let you know as soon as I get it installed.</TD></TR></TABLE>

let us know how it goes. I'm lookin into buying one too. thanks.

 

no doubt, that is a killer price. I think i will still go with circuitworx though just to be safe.

 

i ran a circuit works 4.7 for a few passes until the teeth on the ring gear blew apart. wasnt much difference in e.t, actually lost a tenth or so.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Missing Gears &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i ran a circuit works 4.7 for a few passes until the teeth on the ring gear blew apart. wasnt much difference in e.t, actually lost a tenth or so. </TD></TR></TABLE>

well thats dissapointing to hear.

how did your 1/8 mile et's compare.

 

i remember they were close, have to go back and look at the slips to be sure.

i went through the gears alot quicker and was well past my peak power going through the traps. i could feel the power falling off.

so tried shifting to 5th.......h series dont like to go into 5th at the track

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Missing Gears &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">..h series dont like to go into 5th at the track </TD></TR></TABLE>

come on now, i do it 5 times a lap at Summit Point.

 

summit poin

 

you ran slower?? you must have a pretty broad powerband....

it sped up my 4g prelude a whole lot...i cant say exactly how much but plenty against my brothers h22 hatch....

 

close to 270 whp, 190 wtq peaking at 7600. shifting between 8 and 8500.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Missing Gears &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">close to 270 whp, 190 wtq peaking at 7600. shifting between 8 and 8500.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah you're the guy who got into that big arguement when asking about the H2B plate. You say that you're runnig an H23 tranny and that it's the best tranny you've tried so far. I just dont understand your logic bro. All Motor+short gear ratios = best combo. But not for you for some reason. Not trying to flame you at all just trying to explain your mindset to mgags7

 

i dont need the explanation....

and you cant say that short gears are optimal for every all motor car, they are for most because most have little torque to get up and go, so shorter gears help out quite a bit, with 190lbs of torque, that is less of a problem

 

i guess when you have more power you can use different gear ratios. i mean w/ alot of power short gearing will just make you slower b/c you spend more time shifting. that's why gear ratiios in porche carrea gt is alot diff then it will be for a honda, it has the power to use that type of ratio. so im guessing he's saying that he has the power to use it or whatever.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cb7-R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Yeah you're the guy who got into that big arguement when asking about the H2B plate. You say that you're runnig an H23 tranny and that it's the best tranny you've tried so far. I just dont understand your logic bro. All Motor+short gear ratios = best combo. But not for you for some reason. Not trying to flame you at all just trying to explain your mindset to mgags7</TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah thats me, i was never hating on the h2b. i was asking about different gear ratios on high power n/a h series , and everyone from the h2b click jumped in. only a couple of those guys have even tried that kit, but yet EVERYONE of them says its the greatest thing since sliced bread. im sure it works great for alot of applications, i just wanted to hear from someone making close to my power. again, dont want to get off topic or start an argument, if h2b works for you, then

 

PreludEst, please do follow up after installing the final drive. I'm very interested in the outcome. Thanks

 

exactly right missing gears....the h2b will work great for most people with less tq...after all honda geared them with the low tq b series in mind, so they will get a b series up and going quicker

but with so much power and tq, longer gears may be better, less shifts is always less room for error also....

 

I thought the main reason for getting the h2b was the fact that b trannies are more durable? I never really even considered them for the gearing...

 

gearing, cost, shift linkage, accessability of parts, and for h22 civic or integra owners way better axle alignment

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Missing Gears &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

yeah thats me, i was never hating on the h2b. i was asking about different gear ratios on high power n/a h series , and everyone from the h2b click jumped in. only a couple of those guys have even tried that kit, but yet EVERYONE of them says its the greatest thing since sliced bread. im sure it works great for alot of applications, i just wanted to hear from someone making close to my power. again, dont want to get off topic or start an argument, if h2b works for you, then </TD></TR></TABLE>

Naw no H2b for me. I just read up on your post is all. Personally I wanted the circuitworx but lets see how this thing plays out.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mgags7 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i dont need the explanation....

and you cant say that short gears are optimal for every all motor car, they are for most because most have little torque to get up and go, so shorter gears help out quite a bit, with 190lbs of torque, that is less of a problem</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm no expert at it. But with shorter gearing it allows you to reach your higher ,hence faster gears ,quicker. For an all motor application this is generally optimal because it will allow you to build up speed quicker. But I suppose the scope of the power band also plays a major role in this mebbe thats why short gears dont work for Missing Gears. ( although they seem to work fine for 2point6 who has similiar power)

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by precord96 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">PreludEst, please do follow up after installing the final drive. I'm very interested in the outcome. Thanks</TD></TR></TABLE>

Will do. However, I will be installing it around mid february as I am still waiting for some bearings from Japan for the lsd install. So, please be patient

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CGags13 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">gearing, cost, shift linkage, accessability of parts, and for h22 civic or integra owners way better axle alignment</TD></TR></TABLE>

Bingo..

If people used the CORRECT H22 trannies, they can still achieve awesome gear ratios. Internals are esentually the same.

I would use a H2B plate if I already had a B-series driveline and I wanted to drop a H22a in..