any tips on gaetting to the balance point on 2nd gear wheelies?? ive been workin on em on my gsxr 750, but im a bit scared to go over backward. i can get it up in 1st all day, but i want to get 2nd up and ride it out. i know there are tons of hours of practice insvolved, just wanted some tips.

 

Rear brake is the key to control.

 

what year gsx-r do u have? I found it easiest to bounce it up while standing, you have to gun it pretty hard to get it to go over, how are ur 1st gear wheels? ( I had a tall sproket though )


[Modified by legendboy, 11:45 PM 3/21/2002]

 

i have a 98 gsxr 750. stock gearing. first gear is no problem.

 

this guy seems to have gotten it down...

http://www.superkaos.com/Deathstick2.wmv

awesome

 

No secret really, you need to learn how to be comfortable. I like standing up on the pegs, then lofting the front. That way there is no surprise when you try to see over the screen and have to stand up after the fact. You can feel the balance point, and you can balance it with the throttle. Sorry there isnt alot of hints. You just have to learn to feel it.

 

what bike is that in vid? is it a busa?

 

yes.

 

thats a pretty sick video

EDIT: that turbo busa on that site is sweet!! 306WHP thats crazy


[Modified by WishIHadANiceCarToo, 5:08 PM 3/24/2002]

 

Have someone take pics while you are doing the wheelies. You feel like you are so high that you can flip over you may not even be that high.

I dont know if you clutch them up, or bounce em up. Honestly on my f3, I bounce em up in 2nd and 3rd with a lil work. Your bike has more than enough power, just move at your own pace and keep on practicing. You need to gauge how much throttle is needed to loft the bike to its balance point. I cant offer any suggestions, cause I am still trying to get consistant on that. I can get the balance point half of the time. I can ride em all the way through first, second and part way through third. I get intimidated and set it down 100-120mph.

Now as for clutching, well my clutch is worn so I cant offer any advice on that yet. I have a new barnett clutch kit, and a factory pro shift kit on the way as well as HRC clutch springs to install. It has to be easier than bouncing especially with my 140lb azz.

Oh yes, do as everyone else has suggested cover the rear brake. It has saved my azz once or twice. Unfortunately my buddy panicked and forgot to hit the rear brake and looped his zx6r

Best of luck, and wear your gear.

 

the rev limiter saved my hide on my first wheelie, was my stupid self that decided to gun it at 9k rpms instead of 5k rpms in 1st gear. My legs were dangling and I held on for dear life. I was VERY lucky.

 

how do you do a wheelie on a bike using the clutch?

 

considering how bad it is on the clutch/drivetrain, maybe its best not to try clutch-up wheelies if you dont know how.

 

"considering how bad it is on the clutch/drivetrain, maybe its best not to try clutch-up wheelies if you dont know how."

Unless you are rich enough to afford to trash the bike you are learning on.

I prefer bouncing it up, the front end lofts at a much more steady pace. At least on my 600. When you clutch it, it depends on how much of a rev you give before letting it out. It can come up fast one time, and slow another time. It all depends on how much throttle you give it.

Go to http://www.sportbikes.net and look in the stunterz corner if you want more tips.

There is no way to describe where the balance point. IT will be in a different position for you than me, even if we were on the same bike. It is all about balancing your weight over the rear wheel (And since we both dont weigh the same it will differ). When you hit the balance point, if you let off the throttle, your front end will not want to fall back to the ground immediately. You should be able to coast and be in a wheelie. You should see some of the guys here in florida. One guy can do 360 circle wheelies on a cbr 900rr. Crazy **** i tell you. It is all about balance.

Oh yeah and did i tell you "WEAR YOUR GEAR"



Steven

 

Set your horizon and work of that. Once you know roughly where you need to be it is easier. On the Blade i have to dump the clutch and pull it pretty hard, but the Gixxer should be easier as all the power is up the top. Start slowly and try not to trense up. Use the rear brake and feed the power in quickly before 'feathering' or changing up to bring it down under power. make sure you land square my friend as you will be pulling about a ton.
Wear a back protector and keep a cell phone handy eh

 

"On the Blade i have to dump the clutch and pull it pretty hard"??????????????????

Did I miss something??? Are you trying to wheelie it in 5th or 6th or something?

The cbr 900rr aka fireblade in europe is the most popular stunt bike there is. It has more than enough power to wheelie in just about all the gears with little effort. Hell my little 140 lb azz can get my 600cc f3 up in first and second WITHOUT the throttle. Third takes a little more work. My 600 has nowhere near the 118rwhp that a 900rr has nor the ~120rwhp that the gsxr750 has.

Dont bite off more than you can chew, if you rev it too much you will loop it. Start your revs off small and work your way up if clutching it.

 

Just saying how it is....Blade HP is a matter of massive debate due to crap manufacturing. Mine makes around 114 which is not great. If you want to wheelie in second you have to clutch it up and give it a tug mate! Third i dont know. As for the best stunt bike ho, ho, ho...thats always going to be a gixxer or busa for sheer HP.
Like the pics though mad as a box of frogs you lot in FL!

 

I would be happy with 114hp, I am at about 103 on the 600. I guess it is all about technique.

I was looking at a 900rr for a second bike, but decided to go with the 929 instead. Just need to find a good deal and I am in there.

As for the best wheelie bike, well the stunt riders dont like too much power, cause it will get you in trouble. The busa & zx12r are too big and powerful to stunt, the r1 is really twitchy on the throttle and easy to loop, the gsxr 1000 has alot of power which would normally turn away stunters, but is becoming even more popular for stunting. I guess it isnt twitchy power like the R1.

Either way you cant go wrong if you feel comfortable with your bike.

Ride safe

Steven

 

Get out on the interstate, 3rd gear bring it up to about 8k and then just kinda bounce the front and full throttle it and she will stand up real nice!!!