Here's the specs first:
00' Civic CX Hatch
JDM b18c
td84u distributor
s80 LSD tranny
obd1 P72 using obd2-obd1 harness
OEM Gsr intake manifold
OEM header
AEM CAI
OEM Cat
2.5" Catback
Whenever i go to WOT, the car is very slow to respond. There is absolutely no power until i get into vtec. I'm not sure where to look at first. Would it be a fuel problem? Ignition problem? Or what? I am not getting any CEL's either. Any feedback would be great, thanks!

edit: below 6k rpms, the car has absolutely no power. for example my d16 vtec motor in my hatch feels more powerfull.....



Modified by D21X at 10:04 PM 1/18/2006

 

Check the timing belt, make sure its not off a tooth. Had it happen several times to myself.

 

have you got an a/f meter? that would tell you what the fuel is doing...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Runnerdown &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Check the timing belt, make sure its not off a tooth. Had it happen several times to myself.</TD></TR></TABLE>

good call, but would my engine even be running if it was off a tooth? hopefully i didnt do any damage by going up to 8k rpms a couple of times....

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 97hontegra &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">have you got an a/f meter? that would tell you what the fuel is doing...</TD></TR></TABLE>

no i do not have an a/f meter, and besides the ones u can buy dont work well. the $300+ ones work well, but i do not have the $$$ for it.

 

yes it will still run if its off a tooth

 

i need a refresher on how to check the timing belt.

i know that the cams have marks on them and that the bottom thing (dont know the technical term) that attaches to the crank also has a mark on it, so i just allign all of those up correct???
to do thisi would need to remove just the timing belt cover right? can i still keep the crank pulley in place????

 

use a 19mm socket to rotate the crank pulley until the white mark lines up with the raised line on the timing cover. look down from where a power steering pump would sit- in the direction of the crank pulley and you should see the mark. it looks like a triangle from the top view. turn the crank until the white mark lines up, and then the marks on the cam gears should all the straight across from each other.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by spettinger &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">use a 19mm socket to rotate the crank pulley until the white mark lines up with the raised line on the timing cover. look down from where a power steering pump would sit- in the direction of the crank pulley and you should see the mark. it looks like a triangle from the top view. turn the crank until the white mark lines up, and then the marks on the cam gears should all the straight across from each other.</TD></TR></TABLE>

sweet, thats even easier than what i planned on doin.........i just hope its just as accurate....

 

Which motors are interference and which are non-interference.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SWYZ721 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Which motors are interference and which are non-interference.</TD></TR></TABLE>

most hondas are indeed interference motors as so B-series
the valves wont contact the pistons with a tooth off though

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mmuller &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">most hondas are indeed interference motors</TD></TR></TABLE>

May God have mercy on as all.

Also, can anyone run a carfax for me, or know of some loop-hole?

JHMEH6168PS011202

p_vites@hotmail.com
or
post in this thread, it doesn't really matter.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SWYZ721 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

May God have mercy on as all.

Also, can anyone run a carfax for me, or know of some loop-hole?

JHMEH6168PS011202

p_vites@hotmail.com
or
post in this thread, it doesn't really matter.</TD></TR></TABLE>

hey no hijackin the thread.....

 

most commonly forgotten thing when doing a swap...fuel pump

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Grip &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">most commonly forgotten thing when doing a swap...fuel pump </TD></TR></TABLE>

whats the flow differences between the CX and a GSR one???

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by D21X &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">whats the flow differences between the CX and a GSR one???</TD></TR></TABLE>


79 lph for d and non vtec bseries
135 for vtec b motors.

difference, but that would not cause the problem your describing. the fuel pump would cause problems at high rpms in wich it would not move enough fuel to feed the motor.
that is not the case for a fairly stock b-series vtec

 

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79 lph for d and non vtec bseries
135 for vtec b motors.

difference, but that would not cause the problem your describing. the fuel pump would cause problems at high rpms in wich it would not move enough fuel to feed the motor.
that is not the case for a fairly stock b-series vtec</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yea, the high end on this b18c is decent, so i agree that maybe the Fuel Pump is not the problem.

Would the obd2 (td84u) distributor that I have not be working correctly with my obd1 P72 ecu??? or maybe my distributor timing might be retarded too much, so then my low end/throttle response sucks???

 

i have the exact same motor as you do and mine is also stock everything even the intake tube...my car is a 98 hatch and i never changed my fuel pump and mine runs fine..nothing is wrong so i dont really think the fuel pump is the problem

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ekb16 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i have the exact same motor as you do and mine is also stock everything even the intake tube...my car is a 98 hatch and i never changed my fuel pump and mine runs fine..nothing is wrong so i dont really think the fuel pump is the problem</TD></TR></TABLE>

ok thanks!

this weekend i'll check out the timing, and also check the timing belt. so i guess monday i'll up date this thread....

if anyone has more suggestions please post them up! Thanks!