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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 02:03 PM
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Is it really worth the money to go with a cat back? I'm thinking about bending my own pipe (2.5") and puting on a muff. Any reason why this wouldn't work?? I drive an 04 accord with the 4 cyl. m/t .... i'm looking for a bit of performance increase as well as a better look. From what i've already read here, the headed isn't worth changing, so yes i did try to find my answer before i posted another question..thx Also, i've heard of magnaflow, but is there anything else that will give me a low tone and not a buzzy kind of spound?? I know there is an exhaust forum, but i thought this was more of an accord specific question.....
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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 04:22 PM
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What kind of performance increase do you think you're going to get from an exhaust? (not much, IMO) And how much of the exhaust are people going to see? (again, not much) The car comes with a good stainless exhaust. I would wait until the stock exhaust is shot before changing it. But, if you have money to throw away, go ahead.
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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 05:07 PM
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i beg to differ, i dont know if u read my whole post about the exhaust thing but i should have gained somewhere in the neighborhood of 15-20 hp from bigger pipes and muffs.

I dont know how many people have been underneath a 7th gen accord, but the pipes are really small, I didn't get an exact measurement but judging by the new 2.25" pipes and the stock ones, I could guestimate that they were somewhere between 1.5" and 1.75", if not smaller.

I'm not an accord expert, nor an exhaust, nor anything else, I'm just going by what I saw and what other tuner friends have been telling me about the mufflers I have on and etc etc. So if I said something wrong, or that you think otherwise, I apologize, I'm not an expert, just voicing my observations.

This was done custom, dual, but the fact that its dual shouldnt make a big difference because we have 4bangers. Btw I have an A/T. I'm not sure what the muffler is but I'm calling the exhaust shop tomorrow to find out, and they are a flowmaster retailer so I thought that, but I've begun to think otherwise after searching the web some. And yes, with the silencers in, it makes a nice low tone, not buzzy/ricey, almost like an airplane, but not totally like one.

EDIT- note, do not change the cat, i read and P_Adams showed me an article where a person had problems when they changed the cat, the OEM cat should be good enough.
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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 05:40 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BLKFLSH &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What kind of performance increase do you think you're going to get from an exhaust? (not much, IMO) And how much of the exhaust are people going to see? (again, not much) The car comes with a good stainless exhaust. I would wait until the stock exhaust is shot before changing it. But, if you have money to throw away, go ahead.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i agree, its pointless changing a perfect exhaust which is worth like 3x more than an aftermarket exhaust if you were to price it out. Its a fairly new car and it might void your warrentee. On top of that if you really want to change it might as well put somethings thats worth somemoney and bending you own pipe and adding a muffler prob wont last as long.
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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 06:09 PM
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the factory pipes are only 1.5-1.75 as stated by someone in this thread. And no the exhaust is not stainless, unless there is a new black stainless that i dint know about?? maybe, but it doesn't look like it.
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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 06:11 PM
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also, i dont expect a ton of perf. increase, i just want something that will sound good, and maybe pep it up a bit. I did read about the duals posted earlier, and i agree that you should keep the fact cat. .....
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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 06:22 PM
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Believe me it's stainless. It will last probably at least 5 years. Non-stainless will last 2-3 years tops. My friend at work changed his from the cat back. Has changed it twice more since then. And the original piping from the cat forward is still in good shape. And it is not solid stainless, none of them are (mix of carbon and stainless). That is not to say you can't get a custom stainless exhaust that is as good, or maybe even slightly better than the stock exhaust, because you definitely can. But you will pay "Big Bucks" for one.
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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 06:25 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by razzergreen &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the factory pipes are only 1.5-1.75 as stated by someone in this thread. And no the exhaust is not stainless, unless there is a new black stainless that i dint know about?? maybe, but it doesn't look like it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

thats a guestimate, dont take that to the bank, but they did look AWFULLY small.

2nd, no way in hell its stainless steel, my pipes looked like they went through a pile of horse manure.

if you want major perf increase, get a turbo, but your probably like me, 1 dont have the money, 2 dont want to have to deal with the hassle (well thats just me because i'm not very good hands-on with cars).

PS. BLKFISH i got mine done for 500 bucks at a custom exhaust place dual, it would've been 300 for single.


Modified by msedacca at 4:12 PM 1/19/2006
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Old Jan 19, 2006 | 03:15 PM
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bump,

i was reading in the "guide to basic accords" sticky thread that if you put silencers in your muffler's that it would negate the performance of the exhaust? Is this true? Because if it is I'm screwed because the exhaust w/o the silencers shakes my car and would easily get me a ticket?

Thanks
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Old Jan 19, 2006 | 06:02 PM
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thanks guys, seem like if i dont have it to throw away.... leave it alone.....
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Old Jan 19, 2006 | 06:16 PM
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Finally, someone that listen's to reason. Honda "stock" parts are the best you can get 99.9% of the time. Spend your money on maintenance. Take good care of your car, and it will take good care of you.
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Old Jan 21, 2006 | 10:47 PM
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I'd go custom.

I spent $500 for each exhaust system I've owned (Tanabe RM & DC Sports).

Now I have a custom cat-back with a DTM muffler for $200 (parts & labor). Clean as a factory fitment and sounded better.
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Old Feb 7, 2006 | 09:51 PM
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BLKFLSH Is right if you want a slow, stock from factory performing car. The truth of the matter is that Honda puts skinny *** exhaust on our cars out of the factory, and restrictive airboxes so that they can still Fall under LEV. Then again If BLKFLSH was totally right then there would be no no modded cars, or hotrods on the street, or no need for car companies to improve on thier existing platforms to make better performing cars. A good example is the 2006 Si; was it totally neccesary for honda to make a better performing car with a more aggressive approach to all around performance? If not they would still be making CRX Si's till this day. Truth is this is people want a better performing car, bottom line!
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Old Feb 7, 2006 | 10:18 PM
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hunh? my 1994 accord's exhaust lasted 10 years before it was replaced..... IMHO I would not change the exhaust on your new car. It is of sufficient quality to last a long time.

I currently drive a 1998 accord and it has the original exhaust on it as well.
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