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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 10:35 AM
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if i put new lca's on my 99-00 ex , say omni's , what would the advantages be?could i put a sway bar on with them also?
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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 10:37 AM
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No advantages, just less weight. Yes you can put on sway bar.
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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 10:49 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by badboypolar2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">No advantages, just less weight. Yes you can put on sway bar.</TD></TR></TABLE>
+ the bling factor. No but seriously, the factory lca already have the holes for swaybar. What about the bushing. Anyone know what kind omni uses.

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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 11:45 AM
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stiffer
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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 11:57 AM
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you wont notice the less unsprung weight. With the wheel being 18lbs, the trailing arm being like 35, and the weight of the tire and comp. arms...you wont feel 2lbs. Its all bling (cept no one can see it) and the bushings will give a harder ride. Keep your stock ones, there great.

I got my 96 sedan with stock rear LCAs and a stock 99-00 Si sway bar. I LOVE it, it seems to make the car steer and pivot from closer to the center of the car and removes a bit of understeer. Good ****!
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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 04:08 PM
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you can put a sway bar with the stock lca's? i heard you need si lca's or something.
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Old Jan 19, 2006 | 06:33 AM
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anybody?
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Old Jan 19, 2006 | 06:57 AM
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stock rear lca's on ek civics have holes for a sway bar.
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Old Jan 19, 2006 | 07:04 AM
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i dont mean change the topic here but, i got a stock gsr sway bar. can i put it straight on my stock ex?what do i need to get to install?
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Old Jan 19, 2006 | 07:08 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kaiba &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> No but seriously, the factory lca already have the holes for swaybar. What about the bushing. Anyone know what kind omni uses.</TD></TR></TABLE>

No, not on an eh. Omni I believe uses rubber bushings.


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by eeveeayen &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i heard you need si lca's or something.</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kyden &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">only stock rear lca's on ek civics have holes for a sway bar.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Correct.

my arguments for lcas:

1)they're lighter
2)stronger
3)allow for larger swaybar
4)Stiffer longer lasting bushing (usually)
5)Bushing can be easily replaced
6)Can fix rubbing/clearance issues
7)Can also fix camber issues (certain brands)
8)and they still look good
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Old Jan 19, 2006 | 08:03 AM
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For when you break the bolt that goes through the shock like me .
other than that for people like me that dont have holes for the sway bar then it is a pretty cheap upgrade.
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Old Jan 19, 2006 | 09:48 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mwieczorek43 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
my arguments for lcas:

1)they're lighter
2)stronger
3)allow for larger swaybar
4)Stiffer longer lasting bushing (usually)
5)Bushing can be easily replaced
6)Can fix rubbing/clearance issues
7)Can also fix camber issues (certain brands)
8)and they still look good</TD></TR></TABLE>

1) Yes.
2) Sorry, but no. Steel is stronger than aluminum.
3) Um, no.
4) Some brands claim their bushings to be marginally stiffer. Longevity is the same.
5) It's no easier than with the stock control arm.
6) Um, no.
7) Bad idea.
8) Most of them are hideous.
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Old Jan 19, 2006 | 10:45 AM
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so do i need new lca's to put my gsr sway bar on?or what do i need.
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Old Jan 19, 2006 | 10:49 AM
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no.. it'll bolt right up to your stock lca's.
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Old Jan 19, 2006 | 11:04 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by eeveeayen &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so do i need new lca's to put my gsr sway bar on?or what do i need.</TD></TR></TABLE>
All '96-00 Civics have rear LCAs with sway bar mounting holes already in them.
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Old Jan 19, 2006 | 11:23 AM
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Default Re: new lca's? (kyden)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Targa250R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
1) Yes.
2) Sorry, but no. Steel is stronger than aluminum.
3) Um, no.
4) Some brands claim their bushings to be marginally stiffer. Longevity is the same.
5) It's no easier than with the stock control arm.
6) Um, no.
7) Bad idea.
8) Most of them are hideous.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Just to clarify I'm not trying to argue w/ you. You've had some seriously good posts on this forum so discussing this w/ you is good.

2) Then why do alot of the race teams upgrade the stock lca's? Why do the top-shelf companies preach about strength strength strength? (I'm honestly asking).
3) My civic didn't allow for a swaybar at all. And I've been told using my integra lca's is a bad idea if I want to use a larger swaybar...?
4) You may have me here... I haven't really delt w/ bushings so.. I'm just going by what I read/hear from manufacturers
5)I couldn't get my stock ones out for the life of me... I ended-up ruining them trying to get them out (one of the reasons I got integra setup). We changed my buddies aftermarket bushing w/ ease. Maybe it's just a coincidence?
6)The spc's are a shorter length to allow for camber adjustment, diff. wheel offsets and brake set-ups etc.
7) I agree there's better/easier ways of doing it. But why do all the AutoX guys do it if it's such a bad idea?
8) This is an opinion... I personally like a couple of the brands out there (Function7's make me randy)

Heres an alright thread that was on the board yesterday. They talk about a couple of these things in here:
https://honda-tech.com/zero...age=1
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Old Jan 19, 2006 | 12:33 PM
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forged aluminum is pretty damn strong, forged steel is stronger but the stock lca isn't forged steel, not all types of steel are stronger than forged aluminum, which most lca's are made of.
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Old Jan 19, 2006 | 12:48 PM
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The GSR sway bar Ive heard will go on, but what endlinks to use I do not know. I'd say sell it to someone with a EG, then get the stock Si sway bar with that money, as the GSR one may be a bit thick, and a tad too much stress on your subframe. Si sway bar for the 99 EM1 is 13mm, what is it for a GSR?

Also, listen to Targa. Tho he may be crude and direct, I don't recall him ever giving bad or lying advice.
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Old Jan 19, 2006 | 02:19 PM
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bump for answers
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Old Jan 19, 2006 | 03:44 PM
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so i need to buy endlinks or what
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Old Jan 21, 2006 | 05:41 AM
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Default Re: new lca's? (eeveeayen)

For all who are interested in Function7 EK arms -- please be willing to wait a short time (about 2 weeks).

Our EK arms have been redesigned with multiple sway bar mount points (similar to our redesigned EF/EG/DC arms) to allow the swaybar stiffness to be adjusted. We just have to get caught up with production.

-A
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