This is not actually what it looks like..

I just had an accident recently and part of the damage caused was the P/S resevior got shattard. So my question is will anything be damaged if I run the car with the damaged resevior still there. There is no fluid in the system at all. Should I just remove the P/S belt instead until I get it fixed?


BTW if anyone has a resevior that they want to get rid of.. I need the complete assembly. Shoot me a PM.

 

you need some fluid in the rack or it can be damaged.

just loop the lines on the resevior after you put a little fluid in there and you will be fine.

platinum.

 

Definitely remove the belt until you are able to get the reservoir repaired and fluid back in the system.

 

hell if its broke, you might like the added power

platinum.

 

P/S will seize up if you dont remove, i found that out on my lincoln

 

Turns out P/S really robs quite a few ponies from the car.

I do kinda like it.. maybe it'll stay that way.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by johnecon2001 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Turns out P/S really robs quite a few ponies from the car.

I do kinda like it.. maybe it'll stay that way.</TD></TR></TABLE>like what? 2 at most

 

Yeah, power steering really doesn't rob too much power...I would rather have electric though, but if you got it get it fixed i guess...up to you

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by honda 3300 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">like what? 2 at most </TD></TR></TABLE>

Actually, I've seen dyno charts of 5-7 whp freed up by removing the power steering on a B-series.

 

I had a few gaskets go to crap without my ps working right. Once i got it working right leaked everywhere so i pulled it, got some new front tires and pumped them put real well, and it wasent really a pain anymore, plus it's will be just one less thing you will have thing you will have to worrie about replacing!

 

u'll damage your steering rack over time with out fluid in it. Change to a manual steering rack. u'll need the nonP/S subframe aswell.

 

I drove my 91 ef for 4 years with the lines cut on the p/s rack, no problems

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Padawan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Actually, I've seen dyno charts of 5-7 whp freed up by removing the power steering on a B-series. </TD></TR></TABLE>lets see em

 

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Quoted from an older thread:

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Philly_NBP_R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Here's what I did:
1. Remove all fluid from system (let pump pump out fluid into a closed container) leaving a little bit to lubricate the system.
2. Remove Pump and cast iron brackets (9.5 lbs)
3. Hook PS line that used to go to pump up to the bottom nipple of the fluid reservoir (sp?).
4. Leave the line that goes to the cooler in the front of the car also hooked to the reservoir.
5. Drive away knowing you are making as much as 7 more whp w/out power steering:


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The graphs from this post are no longer up, but the numbers are listed:

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I took the R to the dyno today (brand new dynojet) to get some basic baseline numbers before I do some tuning, and before I replace my rattling cat and add SMSP's cat-to-bpipe bottleneck remover. (Thanks for helping me out Dave)
I also wanted to see the diff between the stock box and AEM, and see how much gains you actually receive from removing the power steering belt.

Mods:
AEM Intake (currently in shortram form *)
JDM DC 4-1 Header
2.5" Carsound cat (rattling and soon to be replaced)

*I used to have the AEM in cold-air form, but replaced it with stock intake. At some point I decided to put the AEM back on in short-ram to see how I liked that.

So anyway, on to the numbers:

Run 0: AEM short-ram: 160.9hp/122.5tq

Run 1: AEM short-ram: 161.2hp/122.5tq (basically no change, 0.3hp, just wanted to warm car up and see if it was consistent)

Run 2: Stock airbox: 164.9hp/121.1tq (peak 3.7hp gain, 1.4tq loss)

Run 3: Removed power steering belt: 169.5hp/123.4tq (peak 4.6hp gain, 2.3tq gain)
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These were both on B18's but the principle applies universally. Between the two separate cars, there's roughly a 6 whp average gain.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Padawan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Between the two separate cars, there's roughly a 6 whp average gain.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I don't think this comparsion is accurate then. Too many variable between two car than just removal of ps.

 

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I don't think this comparsion is accurate then. Too many variable between two car than just removal of ps. </TD></TR></TABLE>

The cars may not have had identical setups, but in both cases, simply removing the PS resulted in an average gain of approximately 6 whp (7 whp on the first car and 4.6 whp on the second). Others have realized similar gains, so these two cars are not exceptional in that respect.

 

so general consensus is that it does add whp. But is it still safe to run it this way?

Padawan: when are you doing the next order on p/s removal kits? This kit is what I need to increase longevity of my steering withouth p/s, correct?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Padawan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The cars may not have had identical setups, but in both cases, simply removing the PS resulted in an average gain of approximately 6 whp (7 whp on the first car and 4.6 whp on the second). Others have realized similar gains, so these two cars are not exceptional in that respect. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I had misinterpreted your information . I thought that two b18 cars, one w/ ps and one w/o ps hit the dyno. Wow, I did know thatps affect that much. I don't have PS in any of my cars anyways.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Padawan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Quoted from an older thread:</TD></TR></TABLE>alrighty, i stand corrected

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by johnecon2001 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Padawan: when are you doing the next order on p/s removal kits? This kit is what I need to increase longevity of my steering withouth p/s, correct?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Sent you a PM.

 

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have you ever felt the difference, its there

 

Loop the lines, add a bleeding resivoir in the middle and some fluid for lube....allows you to lose the weight of the p/s system and parasitic drag without the ridiculously tough steering.

 

Not to be off honda topic, but when i removed the PS from my lincoln i gained 10 whp

 

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The cars may not have had identical setups, but in both cases, simply removing the PS resulted in an average gain of approximately 6 whp (7 whp on the first car and 4.6 whp on the second). Others have realized similar gains, so these two cars are not exceptional in that respect. </TD></TR></TABLE>

i finally got that damned factory fitting off!!!!!!!!!