whats faster a built zc or a built d16z6 or y8? or is it even worth the money?? should i just buy a b20 and make it a crvtec?? whats the cheapest and most powerful way money wise say around 1500??

 

get a z6 and throw a turbo kit on it with a good, tuned fuel managment system and maybe some cams and an intake manifold if you have enough money
-Josh

 

I hate to say it but you are being very very very vaque in your questioning.

 

which ....sohc or dohc zc?

 

how am i being vague (built d series or builtDOHC zc or a b20--for now and make it a hybrid later on.) i dont understand whats vague about that

 

Because a B20 requires more to stick it in and get it running then your average run of the mill SOHC so I automatically remove it from the 1500$ price range.

 

ZC All the way. You're looking at at least $2k to get a b20 in there, correctly, not to mention that they are built like glass. I've got a SOHC ZC in my '90 Hatch. Just be sure and get the zc tranny with it. It's got super short gears which give you rockin accelleration. The whole swap will cost you under $1k and you can use the rest to add bolt ons or get the ecu chipped. With my setup (see signiture) I've smoked several modified '00 Si Civics, New Si's for sure (not '06), Integras, and I hold on to rear bumpers of GSR's. Not saying a whole lot but for under $1k, it's a blast to drive, and leaves plenty of room for more to do. Turbo setup coming up soon and plan to be in the 250hp range. Either way, get your motor from http://www.hmotorsonline.com. They're awesome and have the best prices for sure. Of course, they also have 1st Gen B16 swaps for like 1200 bucks and that comes with everything and bolts right in seeing how it originally came from a crx. That's a quick way to be quick.

 

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the B16A for the CRX/Civic requires the purchase of mount kit and shift linkage in order to install it - it doesn't come with everything you need

 

tisk tisk

 

the d16z6 is a direct bolt in and if you have a dx tranny already the long gears would be great for turbo... i got my z6 for $400 from a junkyard with a 4 month warranty and then got a rywire harness for roughly $300... technically you dont have to get the rywire but it saves you a HUGE headache... you can even shop around for a z6 and im sure you can find one cheaper... i would say that you can get everything you need for $600... that leaves you with ~115 hp @ wheels and $900 to play with... id personally say a custom turbo kit and greddy emanage would cost you around $650 and then throw on some cams and/or intake manifold... youd have yourself a pretty nice little screamer then
-Josh

 

abercrombie...

 

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Not true,,And buy the way the dx tranny has the same gearing as the si tranny,,its only the final drive that is different which gives you a little better acceleration..

And long gears are only good if you make all your power down low..And most turbo 1.6 litre motors dont make there peak power down low in the rpm range,,

And to the original poster ,,your question is very vague..There are so many different ways you could do a motor..I say do a stock block doch zc,homemade turbokit, and run turboedit and be happy with 210whp and have fun..

 

oh an just so you dont get "flamed" later all ZC are considered d-series

im rockin a stock d16a6 and im almost done getting all the parts i need for my homemade turbo setup and i hope to run 8psi intercooled and get hopefully get at least 150hp to the wheels, with turboedit on my pm6. my vote goes with Mr. Speaker, turbo dohc zc!

 

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They are by no means a direct bolt in for a crx. Sure they came in jdm crx's, but they never came in any usdm ones.


But a z6 swap sounds like the best option for you. Like the others have said it will cost well under $1000, which will leave you some money for bolt-ons. Later on you can put on a turbo kit if you want.

 

ZC is a D-Series motor

 

i know a zc is a d series ****** flamers get off the thread if u cant be of no help jackasses.

 

then why did you title the thread zc vs. d-series tough guy? sheesh calm down.

 

It's all just symantics - if you really want to be like that, a ZC isn't stamped as a d-series. They are considered D-series for sure, but there's nothing official speaking about a lineup of "D" of engines. Thus, we don't correct people when 'incorrect', nor do we give those correcting a ******* cookie when they feel obligated to do so.

I'd suggest a built d16y8 block at the least. If you ever need to sell it, there's more potential buyers since most states require a same-or-newer motor to replace the old one. You can also get better parts for a z6/y8 head than for a ZC, at least for much less and much more easily. IMO the only thing a DOHC ZC really has going for it is it's pistons. Put P29's in a stock y8 and then it's just an old engine sourced from Japan (or Europe).

Torque steer isn't as noticable w/ a ZC's equal axles, but then again, you can mount that to an a6/z6/y8.

 

The ZC is the perfect swap!!!!

 

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i was just trying to help the guy, must be that time of the month on h-t.

also dont forget that a lot of the time people are just using d16a1, d16a3, d16a8, d16a9 and calling them dohc zc.

 

i like the b20 swap... If you do the swap yourself, and you can find one cheap enough from a freind or something.. id go b20... ( to the guy who said there built like glass only when you turbo em do you realize it) you'll use up the full 1500 but the sky is the limit do what you want not what someone else wants.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by QuarterMileMaster &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ZC All the way. You're looking at at least $2k to get a b20 in there, correctly, not to mention that they are built like glass. I've got a SOHC ZC in my '90 Hatch. Just be sure and get the zc tranny with it. It's got super short gears which give you rockin accelleration. The whole swap will cost you under $1k and you can use the rest to add bolt ons or get the ecu chipped. With my setup (see signiture) I've smoked several modified '00 Si Civics, New Si's for sure (not '06), Integras, and I hold on to rear bumpers of GSR's. Not saying a whole lot but for under $1k, it's a blast to drive, and leaves plenty of room for more to do. Turbo setup coming up soon and plan to be in the 250hp range. Either way, get your motor from http://www.hmotorsonline.com. They're awesome and have the best prices for sure. Of course, they also have 1st Gen B16 swaps for like 1200 bucks and that comes with everything and bolts right in seeing how it originally came from a crx. That's a quick way to be quick.</TD></TR></TABLE>

wat ecu are u running because i hav the same swap and ima trying to mod it, pm me if u can

 

D series are physically not worth the money for a crazy setup. D series are the poor mans motor (kinda like me and my SOHC ZC going turbo, don't care if it blows up, I can pick up a new one for 100$).

By a B16 head and either B18A block or B20B block and make an frankenstein vtec engine. Good for what they are, and can be done for 1500$. I built an LS vtec for 800$ once, B16A head for 600$, ls block for 200$, did my own labour, car ran 15.0 on a blown headgasket with hardly any oil, note the car was a 98 integra ls with subs and all that ****.

I should add that the engine blew up shortly there after, having no rev limiter didn't help it at all, the driver beat the **** out of this car, engine lasted 25XXXkms after the head gasket went, roughly 10XXXkms after the engine was built, never reuse a head gasket.

 

is d16y7 = zc ? I heard something like that

 

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If it is a zc motor It will have "ZC" stamped right on the block,,if it says d16y7 it is not a zc,,