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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 04:30 PM
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With all of the ITR thefts out there, I have been thinking about what you could do to potentially stop these thieves from stealing our caRs. I came up with an idea of an ECU Security Adapter that will work for our ITR's and all other Honda/Acuras. The security adapter will especially work well for the 00-01 Integra's with immobilizers. The ECU security adapter is a straight plug and play application, after you initially set up your ECU plugs. There are step by step instructions to set up your ECU plugs to work with the adapter. Setup & installation requires no cutting and splicing of your factory wiring, everything can be put back to stock if needed. Also, there are a few different designs so that the thieves cannot simply buy one of these harnesses, if they know that your car is using one. However, this adapter will only work if you take it out of your car! Also, you might want to take your ECU with you so the thieves don't blow up your ECU. I am offering a special Honda-Tech price of $125.00 for the OBDIIA or OBDIIB ECU Security Adapter, using coupon code HTITR on the online store. I just want to let you guys know about this security feature. The security adapter can also be integrated into the other LCR ECU adapters on the website if you are running a Hondata or Neptune ECU. Let me know what you think. If this post is unappropriate in this forum, I am sorry, and you can move it or lock it. Also, I am not a website guy, I am an engineer, so dont make too much fun of the website. Keep your caRs safe.

http://www.securityadapter.com
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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 04:41 PM
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Sounds great to me, and thanks for looking out for ITR guys!
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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 04:42 PM
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I dont get it? If it plugs in to your harness and it still plugs in to a stock ecu then what stopping them from just pulling the adaptor out ????
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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 04:44 PM
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um, unless u mess with the factory harness (which i doubt anyone wants that) anyone can just use a jumper and obd1 ecu and BOOM ITS GONE~!
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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 05:04 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Rene M &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I dont get it? If it plugs in to your harness and it still plugs in to a stock ecu then what stopping them from just pulling the adaptor out ???? </TD></TR></TABLE>

The adapters come with a set of detailed instructions, including pictures, which requires the buyer/user to repin a few different wires on the stock ECU plugs, in the car. The ECU Security Adapter, fixes the changes that you made to your factory harness, relocating the ECU wires back to their proper spot on the ECU.

There is no cutting or splicing done to the factory car harness. You can simply repin the ECU pins if you no longer want to use the adapter harness.

This product only works if you take the adapter out!

If a thief plugs in an ECU into your car without this harness, it will burn up their ECU.

This product works especially well for the 00-01 ITR's with immobilizers, since the thieves usually bring a chipped P28 with an adapter harness to start the car.

I know repinning your ECU tends to be scary for some people, that is why I have made detailed instructions to go with the security adapters. I have been working with Hondas and Acuras for 9 years, so repinning doesnt seem that bad to me. All you need is a simple pick tool.

Also there are a few configurations of this security adapter so a thief cant buy one and start your car with it, unless he gets really lucky and has one that matches your configuration.
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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 05:08 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RRa_kcaLb &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> anyone can just use a jumper and obd1 ecu and BOOM ITS GONE~!</TD></TR></TABLE>

Not with this adapter, as long as you take it out. That is the point of this product. If a thief jumps into your car with the OBD1 ECU and adapter and you have taken the Security Adpater out, he will fry his ECU.
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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 05:29 PM
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I think its a great idea, but i dont know about your price.
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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 05:34 PM
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That's a pretty damned cool idea.
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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 07:14 PM
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it is a nice idea

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Kavehman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I think its a great idea, but i dont know about your price.</TD></TR></TABLE>

for price, i think it is not bad because those plugs are expensive...
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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 07:24 PM
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I need to see what you are talking about to understand.
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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 07:28 PM
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Just wondering...

I have a 98 ITR with a jumper harness for obd2-obd1. Are you going to make a Security harness that is also obd2-obd1 at the same time?
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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 07:41 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vivid 02 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Just wondering...
I have a 98 ITR with a jumper harness for obd2-obd1. Are you going to make a Security harness that is also obd2-obd1 at the same time? </TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes, I am going to make both OBDIIA - OBDI and OBDIIB - OBDI jumper/security harnesses, to accommodate all of you guys running the Hondata or Neptune OBDI ECU's. If you want one of the conversion/security adapters, I havent put them on my online store yet but you can email me at sales@securityadapter.com for more info.
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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 07:51 PM
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good price, good idea, pretty innovative
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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 07:52 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 98 Spec R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Not with this adapter, as long as you take it out. That is the point of this product. If a thief jumps into your car with the OBD1 ECU and adapter and you have taken the Security Adpater out, he will fry his ECU. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Gotcha; i did not thing about the having to remove the jumper harness..
Kind of a pain to do every night. that ecu is not easy to get to much less to unplug and remove..
Would it not be more effective to to use your idea with a jumper that would not require the removal of the primary jumper and ecu but have a second one that is mounted else where more accessible? this jumper would take out all primary systems, fuel,12 power to ecu, ignition, etc. This removable unit would not only work well but would make the ability to jump the system impossible with out the wire guide for that particular car..
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Main ecu harness with rearranged pin locations-----------Your jumper harness " with all same colored wires---- removable link ,one male and one female connector with 20-30 pins in it " your carry out the female or male with you -------- ECU

The removable link can take out 20-30 pins with out a problem and unless you know what goes where you will not be able to bypass all of them with out frying something. Because face it pulling out the adapter will be so much trouble that you will eventually get to lazy to do it.
If you make a removable link just behind the glove box or under the dash where it is out of sight but with in reach then people will be more likely to use it and would make one hell of a theft detergent.
Just one engineer to another..
Rene M
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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 08:08 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by neo_ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Good idea, but I would prefer a system in which you don't have to take out your ECU...</TD></TR></TABLE>

The bad news it it will be your ecu they fry....
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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 08:28 PM
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The part I dont understand is this-

If you take the plug-and-play adapter harness with you, your left with the stock unmodified harness, correct? Whats to stop somebody from bringing thier own ECU?

:edit: okay, after reading it all 3 times I think I get it. When you said "modify ecu plugs" and also "no cutting or splicing of harness" I thought you meant you modify the plugs on the acutal ECU.


Modified by tommymoose at 5:39 AM 1/6/2006
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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 08:30 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tommymoose &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you take the plug-and-play adapter harness with you, your left with the stock unmodified harness, correct? Whats to stop somebody from bringing thier own ECU?</TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 98 Spec R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
The adapters come with a set of detailed instructions, including pictures, which requires the buyer/user to repin a few different wires on the stock ECU plugs, in the car. The ECU Security Adapter, fixes the changes that you made to your factory harness, relocating the ECU wires back to their proper spot on the ECU.


If a thief plugs in an ECU into your car without this harness, it will burn up their ECU.

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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 08:37 PM
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so basically youre making a sale on h-t without becoming a sponsor.

$125 for a harness that would make your car "unstealable"?

most thieves just tow these days.
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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 09:25 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by uNF$@#! &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so basically youre making a sale on h-t without becoming a sponsor.

$125 for a harness that would make your car "unstealable"?

most thieves just tow these days.</TD></TR></TABLE>

tow or yank .....

any little bit helps these days
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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 08:22 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by uNF$@#! &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so basically youre making a sale on h-t without becoming a sponsor.

$125 for a harness that would make your car "unstealable"?

most thieves just tow these days.</TD></TR></TABLE>

So basically you're just a massive douche. He never said it would make a car unstealable.

To the OP: Thanks for trying to help the theft problem many of us have to put up with.
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Old Jan 7, 2006 | 01:25 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dr Pooface &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So basically you're just a massive douche. He never said it would make a car unstealable.

To the OP: Thanks for trying to help the theft problem many of us have to put up with.</TD></TR></TABLE>



i have 01 itr .. and i'd use it but i will have to use my obd1 ecu with my cams .. so now what do i do?
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Old Jan 7, 2006 | 06:09 AM
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Great idea... although I agree with the guy that said that the "removable part" should be in the cabin and easy to get to.
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Old Jan 9, 2006 | 10:45 AM
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I still dont understand.

If a theif wants to steal an immoblizer car using an OBD1 ecu, wouldnt they bring an ecu(OBD1) and their own OBD2-OBD1 harness?

They would simply unplug your security adapter where it connects to the factory harness and plug in their own adapter and ecu in.
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Old Jan 9, 2006 | 11:08 AM
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Ok so:

Theif aproaches car, smashes window, pops hood, cuts or quickly undoes negative terminal to kill power to alarm (if theres a backup battery theif goes and searches for the siren). Once thats done he goes to work, brought his own ECU, starts and fries it. Now hes mad...

What if he goes ballistic, jumps on the roof, dices up the interior, pours something in your oil, bashes in your rear 1/4?
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Old Jan 9, 2006 | 11:12 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by KOALA YUMMIES &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ok so:

Theif aproaches car, smashes window, pops hood, cuts or quickly undoes negative terminal to kill power to alarm (if theres a backup battery theif goes and searches for the siren). Once thats done he goes to work, brought his own ECU, starts and fries it. Now hes mad...

What if he goes ballistic, jumps on the roof, dices up the interior, pours something in your oil, bashes in your rear 1/4? </TD></TR></TABLE>

Then shoot him off the roof...
A little handy wipe and no problem ...
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