What you be yalls suggestions on getting easiest and cheapest 150 whp n/a in a obd0 crx si....

- single cam vtec with bolt ons

- b18b swap with bolt ons

(i figure these two would be the cheapest)

who has 150whp with one of these 2 motors... and what bolt ons are on it...

 

Neither of those will net 150 wheel horsepower.

Your best bet it either a GSR swap (B18C1) or ITR swap (B18C5).

 

im not being a dick... but read a little more carefully... im not talking about leaving them stock... which one will make the power of 150 for the cheapest price

 

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Between the two the LS would probably be the better route to go.

Cams, bolt ons, and tuning should have you there

 

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Regardless, with the mods you listed on each motor, neither will net you 150whp. Maybe you should read your own posts, as well as the replies you recieve more thoroughly before spouting off dumb comments.

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Between the two the LS would probably be the better route to go.

Cams, bolt ons, and tuning should have you there</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes, cams, bolt-ons and tuning would get you there on an LS motor.

 

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Between the two the LS would probably be the better route to go.

Cams, bolt ons, and tuning should have you there</TD></TR></TABLE>

is this cheaper even with the swap price figured in?

 

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is this cheaper even with the swap price figured in?</TD></TR></TABLE>

More than likely not. My suggestion to you is, if you're set on the LS swap, get a B18A swap from a OBD-0 Integra and swap it in.

That would cause the least headaches.

 

b16 will be your best buy

b16a w/gsr head
ctr pistion/itr cams /spoon gears/skunk iM/jg66mm tB/jdm itr header
made 174hp 115 tq
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1479453

 

Why the GSR head? the B16a has aperfectly good head on it in the first place


N/M I posted before i read the whole thing...

Dave

 

An ITR or B16B will net you 150+ right out of the box. No tuning, no cams, no bolt on blah blah blah. Plus they will be 100% reliable. If your goals are nothign beyond 150, then I'd STRONGLY reccomend a stock R swap of some type.

 

i bought a used b16a and it put down 154 with intake and exhaust.

vtec

 

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vtec </TD></TR></TABLE>

Did you do some type of tuning? If not thats crazy

 

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Did you do some type of tuning? If not thats crazy </TD></TR></TABLE>

nope no tuning. Part of me thinks i got lucky and imported an n1 engine though. All the internal components are stock as far as i can tell, but it put down over 105 ft/lbs from 5,500 up to 7,700 peaked at 109.6 ft/lbs @ 5766 rpm. If you ask me thats a bit low for a b16 to be making all of its torque

 

a b16 head is almost a bolt on for the ls motor. could get you pretty close to 150 hp if not there.

 

$3500 for a B16B swap plus 200 for mounts and then maybe another 200 in BS for the swap. Under 4 grand and you've got easily 155 WHP and an AWESOME transmission combined with factory reliability and the ability to rev to the sky. Its a no brainer there buddy.....but feel free to build sometthing else if you'd like.

 

Why not a B18C1? I've seen stock GSR's dyno just under 150. Thats with stock box, ps, ac, blah, blah. If it's a hatch you throwing it in, most likely you won't have those accessories. With bolt ons, you can get 155-160 easily.

To answer your question, the LS will be the cheaper route. Getting a D16 to around 150 is pretty hard. Probably have to go down on your internals. It'll be hard to hit with 150 with just bolt ons with LS also.

 

http://www.pgmfi.org/twiki/bin...ccess

B18A/Bs seem to be pretty potent motors when in the right hands.

 

To put down 150whp expect to pay around 3,500 - 5k, whether it's from a built d16 or a b18 it will be somewhere around there.


Why not just swap a z6 in and boost it?

or better yet just boost your a6.

 

for the price of an ls , you can build a turbo setup that will make you much more than 150whp .....oh crap im in the all motor forum.

 

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HAHAHAHAHAHA

 

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dont know where you can put together a turbo set up for less than $150 thats what ls motors cost around here.

 

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dont know where you can put together a turbo set up for less than $150 thats what ls motors cost around here.</TD></TR></TABLE>

wow id love to go there.

 

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st louis MO, they even take them out for you. maybe i should start selling them...

 

definatly.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by biassj &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Why not a B18C1? I've seen stock GSR's dyno just under 150. Thats with stock box, ps, ac, blah, blah. If it's a hatch you throwing it in, most likely you won't have those accessories. With bolt ons, you can get 155-160 easily.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Becasue the GSR doesn't have a main girdle, it doesn't have the better thermostat, the better water pump, the awesome cams.....oh yeah, not to mention how absolutely off the chain the R transmission is. Trust me, B16B &gt; GSR swap. Might make roughly the same POWEr, but there's alot or to a motor than the numbers it spits out on the dyno.