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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 09:21 AM
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i have 2 89 hatches one is and si with a zc vtec sohc and the other is a std the std body is mint so im taking all the si stuff and swaping it all on to my std but the question i had as what will make more power casue i heard if you do a "mini me" swap ith my d15 it will put a higher compression so will that make more power than my zc cause if it does im just going to swap over my head than if not ill do the moror swap
and also my std has a 4sp trans is that even worth keeping or should i just put in the zc with the si trans thanks for all the help
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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 09:33 AM
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I think you can put the 5 speed Si tranny on the d15b1 in the std hatch.

I don't know much about the mini me but the 4 speed in the std suck, swapping it out for the 5 speed makes a big difference
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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 09:38 AM
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thanks i kind of figered that the 4sp as worthless
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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 09:44 AM
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Dont even bother with the mini me setup..You already have a complete sohc vtec motor that is 1.6L and has a taller deck height that the d15b1..So just put the vtec motor,and 5speed tranny in the STd..You;ll notice the difference without all the weight with the SI
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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 10:08 AM
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ok thanks thats all i need to know
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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 10:16 AM
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im not positive about this but wont you have to do a mpfi conversion to , i think the std was dpfi
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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 10:40 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by elrandeeto &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">im not positive about this but wont you have to do a mpfi conversion to , i think the std was dpfi</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes you are correct..But he said he was swapping all the SI stuff over the std..So I would assume he means the whole entire car harness also..Although it would be easier just to use the std harness and convert it to mpfi..
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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 11:50 AM
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Default Re: what makes more power (Mr.speaker)

i want to do what ever is the ezest moneys not a huge deal with me
if i convert it to mpfi i just have to buy the **** from rywire.com right
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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 04:17 PM
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Have you though about doing it yourself?..Look at this writeup http://www.gutterslide.com/fou....html
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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 06:57 PM
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There is no such thing as a ZC vtec.
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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 07:12 PM
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yes there is, its a sohc vtec... hmotorsonline.com sells them, even has a picture
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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 07:17 PM
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Exact link please. There is no VTEC on a ZC.
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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 08:13 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LoneStarCRX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Exact link please. There is no VTEC on a ZC.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Don't spread false info please..

There is a vtec zc motor,it's basically a d16z6 motor with a ZC stamp on the block...





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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 10:18 PM
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yea the zc is in my car right now so u really cant tell me theres no such thing
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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 10:33 PM
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the 4-speed transmission is awful . . really really makes it a TRUE economy car tho when talking about gas mileages . . acceleration is more better when having a 5-speed transmission IMO
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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 12:27 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LoneStarCRX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Exact link please. There is no VTEC on a ZC.</TD></TR></TABLE>

JDM version of the D16Z6 is called the D16ZC. It is Vtec for sure....

I have 2 of them.

They have slightly higher compression than the D16Z6 block for mad 5 HP more (Or so) and the VTAAK k1kz in m@d t1T3 y0!
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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 05:38 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by S o C l o s e &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the 4-speed transmission is awful . . really really makes it a TRUE economy car tho when talking about gas mileages . . acceleration is more better when having a 5-speed transmission IMO</TD></TR></TABLE>

It's not really that good for fuel economy. The overall ratio in fifth is actually the same as an SI transmission and SHORTER than a DX transmission. The only reason why Honda went with a four speed is to keep the cost of the car down. The Civic STD was at least as much (and perhaps more) about being cheap to buy as it was about fuel economy.
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