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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 11:53 AM
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The lights in my 92 SI suck! I'm looking at all these HID kits on the market place , but I have no clue what I'm looking at. I was looking at TYC projectors , but I only have 1 bulb? I don't know if I should just get Sylvania Silverstars , the HID kit on here (but which one?) , or the TYC projectors? I need guidance , please help.
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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 11:59 AM
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If you want to keep it on the cheap(er) and don't mind replacing bulbs once a year or so go with the SilverStars.
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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 12:10 PM
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even the piaa extreme white plus is a good bulb
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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 12:12 PM
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^^^ what they said.
also you can install a relay setup that delivers true battery power to the bulb instead of lowered voltage through the headlight circuit.
Simply use the existing power to turn on the relay and a 12gauge wire to deliver power from the battery. It makes a big difference.

projectors are more of a personal preference, I like them but some people don't like the cut off line they produce.
HID kits are good if you use the OEM projector housings and retro fit them into a headlight housing properly. If you put the HID bulbs in your stock housings without the projector and shrouds you will get pulled over and ticketed. Not to mention you will basically blind everyone on the road ahead of you.
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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 12:13 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JimmyAtlantis &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you want to keep it on the cheap(er) and don't mind replacing bulbs once a year or so go with the SilverStars.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm not very impressed with my Silverstars. Good bulbs for the money but def not bright enough.

I was thinking about HIDs but its attracts a lot of cop attention around here.
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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 12:15 PM
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What about straight TYC projectors? Do they help with light output? I need something better...

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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 12:21 PM
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i have a 94 altima with a 8000k HID kit and to tell you the truth it SUCKS! i mean if you have projetors then a 6000k is the best if your is just stock just but a cheap H4 booster! it doesnt glare like the HIDS do
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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 12:29 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by billyscivicEX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i have a 94 altima with a 8000k HID kit and to tell you the truth it SUCKS! i mean if you have projetors then a 6000k is the best if your is just stock just but a cheap H4 booster! it doesnt glare like the HIDS do</TD></TR></TABLE>

Your kit sucks because you are using 8000k. Anything over 5000k you lose light output on the ground
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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 12:34 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SkoundrelUSA &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm not very impressed with my Silverstars. Good bulbs for the money but def not bright enough.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Apparently the Osram Silverstars r pretty good. They r the european version. The Osrams are brighter than the Sylvanias because they were made for performance rather than appearance. The Sylvania version is 'North Americanised' and are filtered to appear more white....which decreases performance.

Search ebay for "osram silverstar" and u will find them for sale there.
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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 01:00 PM
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Even so, bulbs will only do so much with crappy refractor housings. I've never liked the headlights on my EK. I may just pick up some better fogs and driving lights so I can see when needed.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Relic1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
also you can install a relay setup that delivers true battery power to the bulb instead of lowered voltage through the headlight circuit.
Simply use the existing power to turn on the relay and a 12gauge wire to deliver power from the battery. It makes a big difference.
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So you're saying use the wire that powers the lights now to switch a relay on, using the batt for power?

Is this reliable with the relay in the engine bay area? I'd think if you ran the other wires around another way that it'd take away the benifit of running the lights off the battery.

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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 01:35 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AutoXer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So you're saying use the wire that powers the lights now to switch a relay on, using the batt for power?

Is this reliable with the relay in the engine bay area? I'd think if you ran the other wires around another way that it'd take away the benifit of running the lights off the battery.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I measured the actual voltage at the headlight with PIAA H4 bulbs in there, with the engine running and lights on, the battery at a constant 13.8 volts, the headlight had 9.8 volts across it.
Using a relay mounted to the fender wall with the terminals mounted to the bottom and the connections shrink wrapped, I have not had any problems after 3 years. Not even a little discoloration, and I run it year round in chicago's salt filled streets.
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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 10:44 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Caveman74 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Your kit sucks because you are using 8000k. Anything over 5000k you lose light output on the ground</TD></TR></TABLE>
Is this true? I drive in the dark alot! And I drive on alot of Backroads in the dark. On my CRX I had 6" Hellas on the front. Looked kinda funky with the bumper cut out , but they worked great!(had them hooked to the highs) I don't wanna do that with my EG. So if I get a the TYC's and use the HID kit on the highs would this make the differance I am looking for?
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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 10:55 AM
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can you show a diy, i mean where do you hook up the battery wire to? the top or one of the side wires of the h4 headlight housing
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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 11:08 AM
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I would love to do this, a DIY would be wonderful!
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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 02:23 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by stephen_civic98 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I would love to do this, a DIY would be wonderful!</TD></TR></TABLE>

Test the plug to see which is the 12+ when the headlights are on. Connect that wire and a ground to the prongs for the coil switch of the relay. Run a wire from the battery, and hook that to one of the switched leads of the relay, and then run a wire from the plug (where you pulled off the 12+) to the other switched lead of the relay. If you do a google for relay, you'll come up with some good diagrams to show how they work, and you should be able to figure it out.

So does anyone have any experience with the TYC projectors??????


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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 02:33 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AutoXer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So does anyone have any experience with the TYC projectors??????</TD></TR></TABLE>
yes, IMO their projectors have poor light output, and the set I had started to melt after a 2 hour trip with PIAA bulbs.
Go with a set of Denji projectors, I have yet to have any complaints with mine.

if it wasn't sub-30*F out I'd take a few pics for a DIY.
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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 02:40 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AutoXer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Test the plug to see which is the 12+ when the headlights are on. Connect that wire and a ground to the prongs for the coil switch of the relay. Run a wire from the battery, and hook that to one of the switched leads of the relay, and then run a wire from the plug (where you pulled off the 12+) to the other switched lead of the relay. If you do a google for relay, you'll come up with some good diagrams to show how they work, and you should be able to figure it out.

So does anyone have any experience with the TYC projectors??????


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iVE GOT SOME IN MY CAR AND yes,... THAY MADE A huge DIFFERENCE IN (FRIGGIN CAPS) the intensity of my lights. I am always getting flashed at by oncomers thinking I have my brights on but when I DO actually flip them to brights,... the oncomers QUICKLY turn theirs off


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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 02:45 PM
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iVE GOT SOME IN MY CAR AND yes,... THAY MADE A huge DIFFERENCE IN (FRIGGIN CAPS) the intensity of my lights. </TD></TR></TABLE>

What about the beam pattern / cutoff? Does it spray light all over like the stocks, or is it a nice quality projector output?

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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 02:56 PM
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Im gonna go with a nice quality spread (although honestly, Im not sure exactly what you mean.....beam pattern?,..... cutoff?) I wouldnt say that it is as nice as my friends 06 M3's lights but it is 200% better than stock
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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 02:56 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by omega02379 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Is this true? I drive in the dark alot! And I drive on alot of Backroads in the dark. On my CRX I had 6" Hellas on the front. Looked kinda funky with the bumper cut out , but they worked great!(had them hooked to the highs) I don't wanna do that with my EG. So if I get a the TYC's and use the HID kit on the highs would this make the differance I am looking for?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes, anything over 5000k you are losing light output to the ground. That is why ALL HID equipped cars come with 4100-4300k bulbs. You can buy an H1 HID kit and the TYC put out decent light for aftermarket projectors. I went the other way and took out those and installed TSX. Much better
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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 04:03 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by allanonjj &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I am always getting flashed at by oncomers thinking I have my brights on but when I DO actually flip them to brights,... the oncomers QUICKLY turn theirs off</TD></TR></TABLE>
that means that you have them aimed too high..... others should not be blinded at all, that's the point of the cut off.
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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 04:33 PM
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i have TYC projectors in my EK coupe and i love them. they have a nice consistent beam pattern, i didn't have to adjust them at all and they truly are plug n' play. couldn't have been easier to install....i would go with those...

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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 05:10 PM
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I have silverstars right now....the high beam is great but the low beam sucks. I found this to be the case on my old EK as well as my current EG
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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 05:21 PM
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I would go with TYC or Denji projectors, an hid kit anywhere from 4000K-6000K, and make sure to properly aim them. Honestly cause you have a honda, you would get pulled over pretty quickly because cops are quick to recognize your car doesnt have hids stock.
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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 06:56 PM
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pictures would help on the diy
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