does renoving the interior panals actually make a noticeable change in acceleration and performance?

 

I dont get it...

 

does doing weight reduction and making the car light actually make a performance change?

 

If u remove enough weight, yeah it does, but the panels do not weight enough to see a noticeable difference. Take off the sound deadening stuff and that will take ALOT of weight off.

 

obviously acceleration will be better ..

 

yes i agree that losing a significant amount of weight will improve your performance, but i dont understand your poll...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by crx2nr822 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If u remove enough weight, yeah it does, but the panels do not weight enough to see a noticeable difference. Take off the sound deadening stuff and that will take ALOT of weight off. </TD></TR></TABLE>

 

sound deadening, taking out the passenger seat and getting a bucket seat will honestly do the most. i gutted my black crx to the fullest, even the heater core (weighs quite a bit when all said and done). i loved it. did it help. maybe a bit. but every little bit counts cause by and inch or a mile....every little bit counts.

Marcus

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ScorpioMk &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> but every little bit counts cause by and inch or a mile....every little bit counts.Marcus</TD></TR></TABLE>
Well said Cause remember, "it doesnt matter whether u win by an inch or a mile, winning is winning."

 

"Well said Cause remember, "it doesnt matter whether u win by an inch or a mile, winning is winning."


i was trying to keep the quote subtle. i personally kinda hate those quotes but this one being somewhat true its sorta ok.


Marcus

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ScorpioMk &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">sound deadening, taking out the passenger seat and getting a bucket seat will honestly do the most. i gutted my black crx to the fullest, even the heater core (weighs quite a bit when all said and done). i loved it. did it help. maybe a bit. but every little bit counts cause by and inch or a mile....every little bit counts.

Marcus</TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ScorpioMk &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">sound deadening, taking out the passenger seat and getting a bucket seat will honestly do the most. i gutted my black to the fullest. i loved it. did it help. maybe a bit. but every little bit counts cause by and inch or a mile....every little bit counts.

Marcus</TD></TR></TABLE>

What happened? You can press the EDIT button you know to change your previous post..............

 

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What happened? You can press the EDIT button you know to change your previous post..............</TD></TR></TABLE>

somewhere between refreshing the page and computer freezing that happend, its fixed now. iono im so hungry im delirious haha (drives to jack in the box)

Marcus

 

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somewhere between refreshing the page and computer freezing that happend, its fixed now. iono im so hungry im delirious haha (drives to jack in the box)

Marcus </TD></TR></TABLE>

LOL good stuff. Damn the effects of hunger!

 

F= Force
M=Mass
A= Acceleration

F = M*A

so... F/M=A

in an almost embarrasingly simple physics equation, it can be shown that with the same applied force, a reduction in weight causes an increase in acceleration.

 

take your air conditioning out, im sure the compressor & bracket weigh more than all those interior panels.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by white90crxhf &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">take your air conditioning out, im sure the compressor & bracket weigh more than all those interior panels.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Wow, not bad for your first post Welcome to Honda-Tech!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by white90crxhf &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">take your air conditioning out, im sure the compressor & bracket weigh more than all those interior panels.</TD></TR></TABLE>

definetly good advice.. mine weighed 45 lbs when i took it out.

 

Also, the less thought of...

1 pound = 16 ounce
1 gallon [US, liquid] = 128 ounces [US, liquid]
Each gallon of gasoline = 8 pounds

My passanger side seat and rear seat = almost 50 pounds

Rear interior pieces...maybe 10 pounds?


ADD IN: Weight was another factor as to why I went with the single cam over the DOHC motors.

Power to weight ratios


Modified by busychild at 6:33 PM 1/2/2006

 

the general rule of thumb for drag racing is....every 100 lbs you take off will gain you approx. one tenth of a second on the strip. now a tenth might not seem like much ,but take a trip to the track some night and see how many people get beat by a tenth. a lighter car also tends to be more nimble and responsive when cornering too.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by busychild &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Also, the less thought of...

1 pound = 16 ounce
1 gallon [US, liquid] = 128 ounces [US, liquid]
Each gallon of gasoline = 8 pounds</TD></TR></TABLE>

A liquid ounce is not equal to a weight, it is a volume. To say 128 liquid ounces weighs 8 lbs is like saying a gallon is a unit of weight, which isn't true. A liquid ounce is a unit of volume, and since not all liquids have the same density, cannot be directly converted into mass. Water is 8.33 lbs/gal. The weight of a gallon of gasoline varies based on specific gravity, and varies from 5.8 lbs/gal to 6.3 lbs/gal. Premium fuel is a little heavier than unleaded, due to refining and additives.

Back on topic, Acceleration = Force / Mass. Reducing the mass yields greater acceleration for a given force.

 

So 1 gallon = 8 pounds is not true?...well then weight is still weight. You would still have less weight through a 4 gallon tank of gas than a full 12 gallon tank. I would still use the circa 8lbs/ gallon for a ball park.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by drdisco69 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

A liquid ounce is not equal to a weight, it is a volume. To say 128 liquid ounces weighs 8 lbs is like saying a gallon is a unit of weight, which isn't true. A liquid ounce is a unit of volume, and since not all liquids have the same density, cannot be directly converted into mass. Water is 8.33 lbs/gal. The weight of a gallon of gasoline varies based on specific gravity, and varies from 5.8 lbs/gal to 6.3 lbs/gal. Premium fuel is a little heavier than unleaded, due to refining and additives.

Back on topic, Acceleration = Force / Mass. Reducing the mass yields greater acceleration for a given force.</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by busychild &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So 1 gallon = 8 pounds is not true</TD></TR></TABLE>

A gallon of water is ~8 lbs, but a gallon of fuel is lighter. Like all other materials, different liquids have different densities. That's why oil floats on water, it is less dense. And water will fall to the bottom of a fuel tank, so it gets picked up easier and causes problems.

 

correct, standard fuel averages 6#/gallon.... google it up!

So has anyone determined just how much weight can be removed by scraping out the sound-deadening tar?

 

I saw a couple people saying ~40 lbs! I'll be taking mine out, along with the dash mat crud, and will have numbers when I do. Of course, I'm a lazy bastard, so who knows how long that it will be before I can get to it.