I took out my 2000 itr swap outta my 95' 4 dr gsr ! I want to used the type-r head,lsd tranny with a b-20z bottom end 84.5mm and stock crank with eagle rods,arias 13.5:1 pistons into my 97' ek hatch ! So I was wondering will 240+whp be possible with the above items including a edelbrock 70mm throttle body,edelbrock victor x intake manifold and crower cams and valve train ? I have the b-20z shortblock assembled already with the 13.5:1 arias pistons,eagle h-beam rods with a 12lb flywheel ! And the head is completly stock rightnow sitting on my work bench ! So what would be the next step to achieve my 240+whp goal ? Which cams,vavle train, and also if I need the head completely done who in cali should I send it to? I was thinking JG or someone that could cnc port and polish ! Most likely I'll be running honda s-200 or keep the v-afc2 I have in the car already and I have rc 440 injectors already and a walbro 255 fuel pump ! I'm in Las Vegas and there's not anyone I trust in Vegas to do a head job on a honda head ! All help is greatly appreciated !

 

well the block sounds like it should be able to pull it off. I would say contact Alaniz, Rocket motorsports, or Portflow to do the head, they would also lead you to the right valvetrain. On cams , you have ALOT of choices. m24x,pro2,bc4,webs? thats all on what your head porter thinks would be best for the app. Good luck

 

Look at other cams dont go with crowers if 240 is your goal.

 

Rocket Motorsports Valvetrain
Skunk2 Pro3s
DFE Ported Head
Ported AEBS manifold ( im not sold on the JG manifold, i still thinks its too big)
Run at LEAST hondata, if not uberdata/crome. VAFC isnt enough

RMF/SMSP header

i have a similar build, i made 271BHP. Ill have WHP numbers tonight.

my motor is:
ITR Head ported by DONF/DFE
Skunk2 Pro3s
AEBS manifold ported by DONF/DFE
RM Valvetrain
CP 12.5:1 pistons
Eagle Rods
RMF header

 

Here is my setup:
85mm B20 Block
12.5:1 Rollerwaves
Endyn BumpStix (cams) with Endyn valvetrain and valves
Alaniz/Endyn head (redone by Endyn to improve flow)
64mm TB (GSR bored by MaxBore)
ITR Intake Manifold ported by Endyn
Hytech Production header
Password CF intake (going to try a 3" short ram next, Larry says that will outperfom the the "whale *****)
2.5" exhaust, magnaflow 22" resonator and muffler

I made 243whp, and there is more to be had with more tuning. I made 287BHP (crank hp) from Endyn's dyno.

 

Baker Cylinder heads in Vegas does great work

 

VtecKiDD, you need to sort out at least 3 of those items. $500.00 street port work, $75.00 manifold port match (not $500.00 ported manifold) and we ran it with DC4-1 $300.00 JDM copies. Facts be Facts. Also 11.8-1 comp, with Shell high test.

 

you know more than i do lol. i still owe you the balance of my bill

 

im in the works of building a b20 block also. i got fully built head with skunk 2 cams, cam gears, valves, double springs, and achieved 211 whp at 12:5:1 compression on a b18c built block. the b20 will hopefully bring alot more torque and higher hp

 

well, really depends what engine speed your looking for 240hp. 7500, 8000, 8500+

the engine combos would really vary.

 

LDL is in Las Vegas. Talk to Dennis, great guy!

 

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Well I was leaning more toward get'n head work done by a shop that does full headwork for a living ! And from what I've seen there's not any reputable shops in Vegas for honda head P/P ! And for the my goals of 240+whp! I guess I'll be doing more research into ecu's and cams/vavle trains and intake manifolds/throttle bodies ! Has anyone used the vitor x intake and 70mm throttle bodies ?

 

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I can tell you that on an engine dyno, the 70mm TB performed lower than a 65mm... I watched the test first hand. As far as the VictorX, it also performed worse than the ITR ported (similar to what I am running).

 

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used to be in the bay but moved to vegas lucky u guys

 

well, if you make 168 tq at 7500, 158 tq @ 8000, or 149 tq @8500, that will yield you 240hp.

You just have to choose an engine rpm range that you want to emphasize. You can do this with an OEM intake manifold, just depends whether your spinning 1st gear before or after 9000 rpms. A 65mm throttle plate inlet is a good start with the manifold inlet matched.

 

Very posible. not a hard goal at all. GOOD LUCK
(welcome to the exspensive world of race fuel)

 

I am glad I can get 93 octane at the pump! Texas is awesome, except for the damn summer heat. It so humid LOOKING outisde makes me sweat.

 

Is that right about the 70mm tb will dyno less than a stock type-r tb which I belive is 64 or 65mm ! Also back to cams endyne cams or skunk or jg cams ! Money isn't the issue I just don't want to go back and forth wasting money on a set of cams that won't do the trick ! Also is there anybrand of vavletrains which I should stay away from ?

 

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the bigger you go, the more your shifting the power band up, and it just makes it harder to make more power below the peak hp range. 65mm or less at the throttle plate is what you need.

 

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I would go with the Endyn Bumpstix if I were doing it all again. I am sort of like you though, I would like to try out all the major cams and pick the best one for my setup, but that gets very expensive... besides, Larry had these made to keep ramp up and down speeds of the valves at a reasonable level at higher RPMs. You can read about them here: http://www.theoldone.com/compo...t.htm