ok, so i have a fully built B18C1 bored out to 85mm with a tight *** wet sleeve kit and pistons, rods, etc. the head is totally done, blah blah blah. i was wondering if i should put it in instead of my H22A4. the B18C1 would be turbo of coarse cuz its runnin 8:1 comp. if i decided to do this, what kinda parts would i need to switch. any thoughts at all would be awesome. (or if anyones interested to buy my B18). thanx people! AND HAPPY NEW YEAR!

 

If you have the $$$ they can do it for you. Be 4 I built my motor my shop was asking me If I want B18C1 cause' of popular, high horse power and reliable power

 

that is a civic or integra motor ... even with turbo a b18c does not belong in a prelude...

 

Not enough torque to move our pudgy little cars.

 

How much you asking for the B18C? Email at jaywahr@gmail.com

 

well, the torque wouldnt be much of a problem because the B18 is setup for like 500+ HP. i wanted to run like 20 psi of boost and then spray alittle but only on the track. Am i gonna need ALOT more than just mounts? what about shift linkage? i appreciate all thoughts, cuz i thought it might be an interesting idea.

 

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still not enough torque to get u moving... sure you'll have some torque once fully spooled but none before that. if i'm reading your sig correctly u have a 2000 prelude. 3000lbs. u need the torque of a h or f series. imho it would be one of the stupidest swaps ever and completly retarded to even think about doing it in a 5th gen prelude.

 

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still not enough torque to get u moving... sure you'll have some torque once fully spooled but none before that. if i'm reading your sig correctly u have a 2000 prelude. 3000lbs. u need the torque of a h or f series. imho it would be one of the stupidest swaps ever and completly retarded to even think about doing it in a 5th gen prelude. </TD></TR></TABLE>

People once said that an H22 in a Civic was stupid because the engine was way too heavy and it would result in crazy understeer. Look where we are today.

And a stock B18C should put down about 15-20% less torque (1.8v2.2L). The mods of a 500whp B18C engine should more than overcome that deficit. I can't back that up because not many people are willing to put their boosted motors through stresses associated with starting a dyno run at 1-2000RPM.

Besides, when people are planning on 500whp, I don't think they care about idle speed torque needed to "get them moving." A little slipping of the clutch will get it moving a lot quicker than a stock H22, and when 4k comes around, the B18C will put down a shitload more power than the H22's... peak.

Adi

 

i think it would be cool...but also if you run into a 500hp h oe f series motor...well you can kiss ur *** good bye cause its gonna take down the b18

 

Any B-series in a prelude is the gayest thing i've ever heard, why dont you just put a d15 or 16 in there while your at it Please dont disrespect the prelude, H,F,G only.

 

build a h22 and turbo that. bottom line. imo h22a&gt;b18c

 

Even if you are making 500HP and say 400 TQ, that is peak torque and hp, you make that when you rev your B series to 8K, and that is where you are making that torque. You do not have the initial torque to get the car moving to begin with.

 

see, but you guys are making it sound like the cars never gonna move. dont forget that when you shift, your still gonna be in a good RPM range for power. i dont know. i really wanted to see everyones opinion. haha, as to steveos reply, part of me doesnt wanna disrespect the lude like this. i think its great that hondas are so switchable making anything possible. i think ill end up putting a turbo on the H22 anyways... theres something about making a 2.2L a 2.4L and stomping down that power, watching heads turn, then dropping to the next gear causing that ungodly loud, yet sexy, PPPPSSSSHHHHHHHHHHH! ..... i @#!@#$ love it... i think i gotta hit the bathroom now....

 

sure

 

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still not enough torque to get u moving... sure you'll have some torque once fully spooled but none before that. if i'm reading your sig correctly u have a 2000 prelude. 3000lbs. u need the torque of a h or f series. imho it would be one of the stupidest swaps ever and completly retarded to even think about doing it in a 5th gen prelude. </TD></TR></TABLE>

He could overcome the lack of torque by changing the gearing and/or FD ratios....

I don't think it would be one of the stupidest swaps ever, but I still wouldnt do it.

 

Sure you could do that. But you could also get a cat and a dog to do it as well. It just doesnt seem right and you would be better off with a motor initially intended to haul a Prelude or better.

 

Keep in mind the weight-savings that swapping to a B-Series would offer.

 

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wow.. cool.. so now instead of having a 3000lb car i can have a 2900lb car

Did logic and reasoning really excape some of u guys??? besides the fact that you'll have to fab up new mounts and shift linkage and wiring and axels/hubs, now u have to go get custom gearing and final drive to offset the torque-less b18c. it's pointless and retarded. maybe if it was a 3rd gen prelude i can see it happening but not a 5th gen. heavy chassis+torqueless motor=unhappy car . then there is those of u who say once fully boosted and making 500whp it will be fine. okay.. what about the other 90% of driving where your not in boost? so lets say everything before 4900rpms. your still torqueless down there.

 

is this thread for real?..........

thats just like putting a b18c5 in a prelude expecting it to be quicker

 

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Did logic and reasoning really excape some of u guys??? besides the fact that you'll have to fab up new mounts and shift linkage and wiring and axels/hubs, now u have to go get custom gearing and final drive to offset the torque-less b18c. it's pointless and retarded. maybe if it was a 3rd gen prelude i can see it happening but not a 5th gen. heavy chassis+torqueless motor=unhappy car . then there is those of u who say once fully boosted and making 500whp it will be fine. okay.. what about the other 90% of driving where your not in boost? so lets say everything before 4900rpms. your still torqueless down there. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I was saying it was possible, not that I would do it.

B18C has like what 127 ftlbs of torque
H22A has 152, right?

 

b18c1 : 170/ 121
h22a4: 200/156

 

Instead of spending all your on fabbing parts to stick a B18C into a Prelude, how about you spend your money on a C32B and fab parts to stuff that into a Prelude. And make it RWD while you're at it. Make sure you come back and tell us how it feels.

 

people usually swap h22's into civics and integra's and no the other way around for a reason.. swap the h22 into an integra or sell that b18 and build the h22 for the prelude

 

that is one of the dumbest swap ever.....

why putting a less hp and tourqe in a lude?

why the heck do you even want to go from a 2.2 motor to a 1.8 motor for a lude?

if i have that built b18 motor, i would rather put it into a civic hatch....