i dont have the capability of getting a 220v outlet set up since i rent my place and the owners suck . but are there any 110v tig welders capable of welding charge pipes and/or exhaust pipes. the only 110v is the thermal arc one which i havent heard to much about.
any advice would be helpful

 

just get a inverter and use your dryer outlet

 

i also just saw that there is a miller maxstar which is 110v, does anyone have any opinions on that?

 

your not gonna believe me but im pretty sure my dryer is actually 110...lol

 

its only 110 if its gas

 

Miller has a fairly new welding machine that comes in a case that loks like a regular samsanite suit case.And it is 220 or 110 .And has a H.F.built in.I think it welds better than any welder that I have used.
Some Miller salesman came by and was showing it off.I can't remember how much it was .But it sure was neat.

 

Dynasty 200 will do 110v i think.

 

then i geuss its gas , and i'll definately look into the miller that your refering to

 

but would these millers be able to handle exhausts and charge pipes even at 110v?

 

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Dude its a 200.You could weld cities with it.LOL

 

its not cheap it runs around 3k for the full setup, but its one nice welder

 

are there any cheaper ones out there that will work?

 

Unfortunately "cheap", "TIG", and "110v" are self-excluding requirements.

There are cheap 110v welders, but not TIG.
There are cheap TIGs, but not 110v.
There are 110v TIGs, but they aren't cheap.

I would say, there has to be some way to get 220v if you are really desperate. ALL houses are wired for 220v. The 220v is broken down in 2 phases of 110v circuits. If you look at a breaker box, note that the phases go in a checker pattern. If the first breaker is positive phase, the ones below and to the right of it will be negative phase. You cannot tell the difference electronically unless you have an oscilliscope, but they are different.

It is possible to recombine 2 opposite phase 110v circuits into a single phase 220v circuit. It is a matter if wiring, and you will be limited at the amperage of the 110v circuits.

Basically, you will need access to 2 seperate circuits. This usually involves 2 different rooms. Run an extension cord (0 gauge) from one 110v outlet, and take this into your garage. Now, with a multimeter, test the voltage from the positive prong of the cord to the negative prong (not ground), and you should see 110v. Do the same for the outlet in the garage. NOW, test the voltage from the positive prong of the extension cord to the positive prong of the outlet in the garage. You will either see 0v (if they are in phase) or 220v (if they are out of phase)

If you find some combination of circuits that gives 220v, you can now construct a simple connector to feed a 220v welder. You will need the long, 0 gauge extension cord, one short extension cord, and a connector that matches the inlet of the welder, which probably looks just like the 110v outlets, unless it is an older model.

Now, wire the positive prong of the 220v plug to the positive wire from the extension cord, and wire the negative plug to the positive of the other cord. Wire the ground to BOTH of the extension cord's grounds, and you now have a plug that will supply 220v at double the amp rating of a single circuit. (most home breakers are 15 or 20 amp, so you will either have 220v 30 amp or 220v 40 amp)

Now, you just have to plug the two extension cords into the 2 outlets that you got 220v at before, and start welding. Keep the amps down. Now, if either breaker pops, you will get 0v, so don't worry about accidentally feeding the welder 110v.

Be sure to use a 0 gauge cord on the long cord.... You want to minimize resistance or you will pop breakers every couple of seconds.

Now go to Ebay and buy the Smiley TIG/ARC/Plasma machine.


Some electrician back me up on this, please. I can't remember exactly if the ground on the 220v plug is suppose to go to the ground or to the neutral on the 110v cords.

 

thanks alot for the help, you should do a write up on that or something im sure if i read it a few more times i'll understand it lol

 

I actually found a product that does this:

http://quick220.com/pictures.htm


It took me a long bloody time to find that. Don't know if it's currently for sale or not.

 

wow thats awesome thanks alot

 

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Correct. They're not cheap though.

 

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http://quick220.com/pictures.htm


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you know i found a couple of items like that one, does anybody know if those inverters are reliable? Im in the market for a new weld machine and i don't want to be limited to buy a 110v because that's all the i have access to.

 

I made the wise investment of putting my money into a Miller Maxstar150STH. Eventhough I have only about 30 minutes of weld time, it is a GREAT machine! It is more than enough to weld sch40 stainless, which was my main intention of getting a TIG. If your looking into a machine that can weld alumium as well, get the Dynasty 200.

 

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It isn't an inverter. It is just a bipole breaker external to the breaker box. I just noticed the price, too... $210? Well, maybe it is worth it since it is OSHA certified, but I'm sure I could build one for $25-$100. Depending on how far you had to run a cord to get the out-of-phase part of the circuit.

 

or buy a clarke welder....130 amp mig welder that runs on 110v.

 

A Clarke MIG isn't a TIG.

I have the Clarke MIG130EN. Great welder, but in order to actually use 130 amps you need a 30 amp breaker. (Or, like me, if you are using the maximum amp setting, you limit yourself to 20% duty to avoid popping the 20 amp breaker)

Who the hell has a 110v 30 amp breaker in their house? With something that specialized, you might as well get a 220v circuit installed or use the 2-circuit combiner.

 

Can you not replace the breaker with a higher amp?

 

I'm sure I could do that, but I don't want to burn the place down. Usually electricians size these things for safety.

 

the breaker is sized in relation to the wire going to the outlet lol, most wire is like 25 amp i belive.

anyway whats the hang up to get a tig? to me it sounds like cheap and 110v are your main concerns so just get a damn mig setup.