ok i've been doin a bit of mountain passes in my lude over the summers. my brakes have great initial bite (power stop cross drilled rotors and i forget wat pads i have on there but they're decent) but the brake fade gets scary after my favorite downhill section. i originally thought i was going to have to upgrade to larger rotors/more pistons but i've done reading and realize i may not have to. wat brake fluid and pads would u guys recommend to deal with the very high heat i'm putting my brakes thru? i'm going to install stainles lines too.

 

Hawk makes pads designed for just about all applications.

http://www.hawkperformance.com/performance/

 

need advice from someone who really pounds on the brakes like on a road course or on the mountain like i do for 20 minutes straight or more. i only say this cuz on regular driving my brakes are great and never fade even from high speeds on highway down to exit ramp speeds. the problems arise wen i'm late braking from 85 to 40 mpg hard in about 30 second intervals for a while. i kno these are extreme conditions. also the solution is hard cuz i need brakes that will work well at normal-cold temps too for reg. driving. sorry for the long winded explanations.

 

cool thanks for the hawk suggestion. someone else has recommended them b4

 

sorry i'm goin to talk some more..................what about stickier pads for the rear of the car so i can get some more rear bias? i'll prolly go with hawk hp plus at least in the front if not all around around unless someone has better suggestions.

 

i never ever faded the brakes (pad or fluid fade) w/ stock sized blank rotors, cobalt friction spec VR's, and motul rbf600.

the spec VR's might not be totally appropriate for the street, but they were the best pad i ever used. i had a set of CF GT sports for a while, and while i liked them, they met their fiery doom at willow springs a couple of summers ago. granted, it was 110 degrees, with a surface temp that was hot enough to fry eggs on--whether this pad is the right one for you (or any of the pads in the same class, like the hawk hps, porterfield R4S, etc) depends on how hot you're getting the brakes.

in your situation, i might run the CF spec b's, or the carbotech XP9's. the problem with some race compound brake pads is that while they have a high operating temp and more resistance to pad fade, they also need a lot of heat in them to work properly. i believe the spec b's and the xp9's have decent cold bite characteristics to make them definitely streetable.

as far as fluid goes, you def need better fluid and your choices are Motul RBF600 or ATE superblue.

 

What model do you have? I've got some EBC RedStuff pads that fit S/SI calipers. Before you take on the mountain course, you'll want to warm them up for a moment, and they'll be good to go the whole way down. $60 shipped if you want them (retail is $100)

 

thanks a lot bad-monkey that was great information

 

hawk or axxis

i hear a lot of bad **** on ebc

 

Well, I've had them for a little over a month and haven't had a problem with them

 

I use ATE super blue dot 4 fluid and Hawk HP+ brake pads.

side effect is a lot of brake dust.

 

I have axxis ultimates 2nd time around - love them - great on the street, and they held their own on 2 HPDEs @ Limerock

 

I use autozone carbon metallic. They are relatively cheap, they have a replacement warranty, they get better with heat, and they work ok on the street too. I have tried a few different organic type pads (great for the street) on the track, and they all get worse after a few laps. The carbon metallic actually work better after a few laps. btw, make sure you are using fairly fresh brake fluid for your mountain runs: boil the brake fluid and you might have a bad day...

 

great great advice thanx guys. any suggestions or pointers for looking for different pads for the rear in the name of more balanced braking or should i not bother?

 

how are AEM pads?

i ordered a front pair for my prelude.

 

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Why would you want better pads for the rear? Some people save the better ones for the front, since that's where all your weight goes. Anyway, I have Axxis ultimates all around and they work great for the street. They don't feel much different than stock, and they don't fade. They just make a little noise and dust like crayzee.
As for fluid, I think ATE has a much longer life than Motul.

Dan

 

i've had my aem pads for a few years now and i still think they're great.

 

ok how bout hawk hps in the front with hawk hp+ in the rear to get slightly more rear bias?

 

if you are looking for something different than everyone else at the track....

try the Satisfied GS series pads
the GS-5 is a good street/track pad
the GS-6 is more street
the GS-4 is a track pad
and they go all the way down to the GS-1 race pad

go check them out at their website, they give temp ranges and friction coefficients

 

nice
temp and friction ranges are very valuable information thats hard to come by

 

yeah that is why i always recommend them......when i was doing this same research about 1.5-2 years ago, i took it to the extreme of calling the sales/customer service of each brand and asking them and most would not give a definate answer, they just gave me the run around about how numbers are different with different testing surfaces. Now i know that is true but they should still be able to produce a range or average. Satisfied was the only one that didn't beat around the bush when i asked.

 

i've never had anything bad to say about the OEM honda pads. But its not that often that i am braking

engine decel ftw

 

i hear a lot of bad **** on ebc

i had the green and they sucked. they squealed so loud and made so much dust i will never buy them again

 

anyone have temp ranges and friction coefficients for Hawk vs. AEM vs. Satisfied GS (vs. OEM for ***** and giggles)?

I'd be interested to see how they stack up.

Also, if the S/Si and VTEC differ, that would be good to know

 

you won't be able to find that kind of comparison......if one existed it would put the other companies brake pads out of business.

your best bet is to call up customer service of each company and try to get the info individually.......but they will most likely give you the run-around