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Old Dec 29, 2005 | 05:06 AM
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Default Help: 3rd / 4th gear vtec problem, car seems to stutter and hesitate

Its really hard to explain, but when running through the gears consecutively redlining each, when I hit 3rd and 4th gear vtec, the car seems to stutter and hesitate.
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Old Dec 29, 2005 | 05:07 AM
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How is it in 1st, 2nd? How does the oil level look? Is it only in 3rd/4th and not 5th as well?
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Old Dec 29, 2005 | 05:42 AM
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what mods do you have on your car?
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Old Dec 29, 2005 | 04:05 PM
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Hmmmm... actually I have a dent in my oil pan, and it raised the oil level significantly. Do you think that could be the problem ??

Only engine mod is a Whale ***** intake.
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Old Dec 30, 2005 | 10:44 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JeFFFFFFFrey91 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hmmmm... actually I have a dent in my oil pan, and it raised the oil level significantly. Do you think that could be the problem ??

Only engine mod is a Whale ***** intake. </TD></TR></TABLE>


Dude, I will bet you half-a-can-of-Coke that your oil pickup is screwed up, and you're losing oil pressure. Enough that your car is dropping out of VTEC.

Fix the oil pan and pickup. Don't drive anymore.

-Chris
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Old Dec 30, 2005 | 10:57 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JeFFFFFFFrey91 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hmmmm... actually I have a dent in my oil pan, and it raised the oil level significantly. Do you think that could be the problem ??
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Stop driving and drop the pan, I bet (like Chris said) your pick up is messed up.
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Old Dec 30, 2005 | 11:02 AM
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Default Re: Help: 3rd / 4th gear vtec problem, car seems to stutter and hesitate (JeFFFFFFFrey91)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JeFFFFFFFrey91 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hmmmm... actually I have a dent in my oil pan, and it raised the oil level significantly. Do you think that could be the problem ??
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I would say not...Since hes not having the symptoms in first or second gear...this is even when the most jerkying is going on with the car and the oil would be sloshy around the most.

An oil pressure reading would help dertermine what the next route to do is.
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Old Dec 30, 2005 | 11:07 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by citrus3000psi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I would say not...Since hes not having the symptoms in first or second gear...this is even when the most jerkying is going on with the car and the oil would be sloshy around the most.</TD></TR></TABLE>

True.. I was thinking this might be possible because you only spend half of a second in VTEC in first, but it might be a few seconds in 3rd or 4th gear (because the acceleration is slower). So, it might not be as noticable.

Fix the oil pan anyway.

-Chris
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Old Dec 30, 2005 | 03:48 PM
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Default Re: Help: 3rd / 4th gear vtec problem, car seems to stutter and hesitate (Chris F)

is your car producing smoke or burning coolent/oil?

Your engine light will come on if your car is not getting oil for Vtec
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Old Dec 30, 2005 | 06:32 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hooch’n &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Your engine light will come on if your car is not getting oil for Vtec</TD></TR></TABLE>

Not true?
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Old Dec 31, 2005 | 04:18 PM
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Default Re: Help: 3rd / 4th gear vtec problem, car seems to stutter and hesitate (Hooch'n)

No burning smoke/oil/coolant. Hmm I never thought of the pickup being damaged, Im trying to get a hold of the oil pan asap. HOpefully, itll fix the problem.
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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 02:12 PM
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Default Re: Help: 3rd / 4th gear vtec problem, car seems to stutter and hesitate (JeFFFFFFFrey91)

Yes, your car has 2 codes for Vtec.....both are for sensor indication for Oil
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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 02:38 PM
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Default Re: Help: 3rd / 4th gear vtec problem, car seems to stutter and hesitate (Hooch'n)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hooch’n &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yes, your car has 2 codes for Vtec.....both are for sensor indication for Oil</TD></TR></TABLE>

But neither come on when you drop oil pressure for a moment. The oil light indicator is basically telling you your pressure is below ~10psi, VTEC requires roughly 40-45psi to lock the rockers. The VTEC oil pressure switch runs off the same circuit as the oil light, it basically checks to make sure there is sufficient oil pressure to engage VTEC, and also checks to make sure the sensor is there. The only way the VTEC pressure switch light will turn on is if there is less than ~10psi oil pressure, or the sensor is malfunctioning or missing. It is a very lacking safety check to say the least....

Mechanically speaking, when the pickup doesn't suck up sufficient oil for the engine, unless you are drastically low on oil, the engine usually only looses pressure for a brief period of time, and sometimes will not drop low enough for the oil light (and hence the VTEC pressure switch) to show a CEL.

If it is a studdering problem, but you are still in VTEC, the problem is most likely spark and/or fuel. An easy check is the plugs, if they are white or dark black, then you are running lean or rich, respectively, but generally you will only studder under lean conditions. Spark can be a bit more difficult. If you are having ignition timing issues, the problems generally show themselves in the higher load and higher RPM situations.

Can you describe what happens a little better?
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Old Feb 18, 2023 | 10:36 PM
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Default Re: Help: 3rd / 4th gear vtec problem, car seems to stutter and hesitate

Having this exact problem on my 04 TSX K24a2 6spd, no luck
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