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Old Dec 27, 2005 | 08:53 PM
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Ok I figured this would be the best forum to put this in. If I am wrong the mods are welcome to delete it.

I just bought a 1994 Integra. I am in the process of building my b18c1 turbo motor to go in it right now, and I plan on possibly taking to so track days. I have tokico blues all around, goldline springs, Omni rear LCA's, rear lower sway bar, and upper strut bar. Nothing fancy but decent for my DD.

When I got the car the rear camber was/ still is way to positive. I bought it from a friend who slid it into a ditch once and that might be the cause. But I have searched and searched but cant find anythign on how I can correct this and get me back to +/- 0.0 or close to it. It is killing my tires and I need it fixed asap.

ANY info and tips are welcome. And again YES...I did search.
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Old Dec 27, 2005 | 09:19 PM
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How long are those Omni arms? I thought some of that stuff was shorter than stock to get a "slammed" car close to 0 degrees camber....if you're not too low, that Could be the problem, but only if you've got the short control arms.

Something to check out.


Edit: how much positive camber you got? Toe?
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Old Dec 27, 2005 | 11:55 PM
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The Omni's are stock length, and my car isnt dropped to much at all. Maybe 1.75" if that. I dont believe its that because it is only happening on the drives side. The passengers side is not like that.

I havent goten numbers yet, and frankly I dont know if I want to. Its bad enough that plain eyesight is all you need to understand its way on the positive side.
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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 04:46 AM
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Trailing arms and possibly upper control arms are bent....

Going to move this into the suspension forum.
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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 06:53 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1992vxhatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The Omni's are stock length, and my car isnt dropped to much at all. Maybe 1.75" if that. </TD></TR></TABLE>

That is not much? my race car is not even that low
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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 10:08 AM
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I believe its more like 1.25" actually. Im really not sure. The springs were on the car wehn I got it. I just put the new shocks, lca's, and sway bars.

But again its still positive and its only on one side. Ive looked at everything and nothigng looks to bent.

Is there a rear camber kit that I could get that would correct this? All I can find are ones to fix neg. camber. If someone knows a link with the correct kit please send it to me so I can hopefully fix this.

Thanks.
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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 10:15 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1992vxhatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Ive looked at everything and nothigng looks to bent.
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If nothign was bent, you wouldnt have an alignment problem. Remove the suspension from the car (all of it) and start comparing bits left to right.
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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 11:41 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1992vxhatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Is there a rear camber kit that I could get that would correct this? Thanks.</TD></TR></TABLE>


I had a similar problem a while back due to an accident that moved my inboard lca mounting point toward the centerline of the car a little bit. I was considering using an adjustable upper arm to correct the camber and discussed it on here, and someone had some interesting food for thought.

Changing the overall distance between the wheel and frame mounting points will change the nature of your dynamic camber curve, leaving you with a discrepancy left to right.

Yeah, stick it on jack stands and get to know your tape measure.
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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 11:51 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1992vxhatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I believe its more like 1.25" actually. Im really not sure. The springs were on the car wehn I got it. I just put the new shocks, lca's, and sway bars.

But again its still positive and its only on one side. Ive looked at everything and nothigng looks to bent.

Is there a rear camber kit that I could get that would correct this? All I can find are ones to fix neg. camber. If someone knows a link with the correct kit please send it to me so I can hopefully fix this.

Thanks.</TD></TR></TABLE>

In the LCA it is likely that the spindle takes the beating and not the arm, producing a bent suspension piece that doesn't look defective at first glance.
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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 05:38 PM
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When the accident happened, it was before I got the car and before I put my sus. on it. It was completly stock when it happened. Then I got the car put the LCA's on it, allong with my springs and shocks. So it was like that before the LCA's so I know its nothting that I have done.

Plus again it is only on one side.


I guess the best thing to do is like what was suggested. Take everyting off and start measuring
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Old Dec 29, 2005 | 08:56 AM
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Based on how the suspension is designed for the integra, if it can't be the LCAs (replaced after crash), it has to be either the UCA (pulled out), trailing arm (rear bent in), or the inner LCA mounting point (pushed in). Its less likely to be the TA, since it floats on the middle bushing, and something hitting the tire sideways would have to bend the upper or lower LCA mount points before it could bend the arm.


I'd actually recommend taking it to an alignment shop that offers a free check, rather than the ones that do the work and surprise you that they had to do very little adjusting. Once you find out what the toe is, it'll be easier to locate the issue. They may even find the bend piece for you, since its likely they've encountered this issue before.
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Old Dec 29, 2005 | 06:17 PM
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Thanks for the help and all of the tips. I wil post up this weekened once I take it to a shop and get some numbers.
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