I can't decide on which one to pick for my 2001 Accord coupe V6 since I don't have any experience with these brands. I've had Tokico RAK501 Full coilover setup for my 5th Gen only.

D2 Racing, Megan Racing, OmniPower, Tein SS with Top mount, K-Sport, and Yonaka Motorsports?

I've heard good feedbacks on the Omni Power but would like the adjustability on my shocks as well since I plan to track and autoX it sometimes but also like the confort for daily as well.

Thanks everyone

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by stock94ex &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I've heard good feedbacks on the Omni Power but would like the adjustability on my shocks as well since I plan to track and autoX it sometimes but also like the confort for daily as well.</TD></TR></TABLE>

One thing you may want to consider when purchasing dampener upgrades for our heavy FWD cars (I drive an 05 RSX-S) is whether or not you'd like to swap in competition-level spring rates in the rear dampeners down the line. I'm not sure about the other brands you named, but if I remember correctly the upward limit on the rear TEIN Flex dampeners I run are 21kg's, which may be a bit low for what I want.

But, I guess the better question would be to care about the above, "How hard you plan on competing with your Accord?" +

I say if casually competing, any decently priced coilover would do you good. TEIN Flex's are great for daily driving and casual competition, but you may be able to find something cheaper than $1600.

 

Thanks for the tips, as for competition, I don't plan to do any, just once a while run. 90% will be daily.

Any other suggestions.

 

Okay, I did a more extensive search and found some more reviews. The K-sport has many positive votes as for initial impression. So far, no longevity yet. D2 - rare, not that many review, mixed. Megan Racing claimes to be Buddyclub rebadged? Omnipower get the budget vote - 650. Tein's get the popularity and name brand but has bad reviews about rusting out. Yonaka = the least favorite.

So.............more feedback please? I know that we have a bunch of K-sports and D2 owners here, but not much of a feedback?

 

Did you consider Ground Control at all?

 

I run D2's on my hatch and I love them! I've never heard a single complaint about them. People that don't have experience with them are quick to jump and say that they are "low end". THey are far from low-end in my opinion. THey have the same features as Buddy Club and other well known brands. I've installed several sets and everyone is always very happy with them. THe quality is also top notch from what i can tell....never had any problems with them whatsoever. I would go with D2's if i were you. In my opinion, D2 &gt; Omni, Tein, Megan, etc.

 

thanks Dave and Eg6.

Dave - I'd prefer full coilover setup. GC doesn't are sleeves on right, last I checked 4 years ago?

Eg6 - Thanks for the feedback. As far as I'm concerned, D2 and K-sports are the same thing?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by stock94ex &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thanks Dave and Eg6.

Dave - I'd prefer full coilover setup. GC doesn't are sleeves on right, last I checked 4 years ago?

Eg6 - Thanks for the feedback. As far as I'm concerned, D2 and K-sports are the same thing?</TD></TR></TABLE>

GC + Koni yellows &gt;&gt; all of the suspensions you've mentioned, and cheaper than most of them too.

don't be fooled by "full coilover" setups. just because the shock is painted the same color as the sleeve doesn't mean that they're a better suspension.

 

and you will have to spend at least an extra $1000 or more to get a better setup than Koni yellow + G/C


do a search check around

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Crazydave &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">and you will have to spend at least an extra $1000 or more to get a better setup than Koni yellow + G/C


do a search check around
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Ditto.

A threaded damper/shock body versus a threaded sleeve=no physical functional difference. The use of 'full' when describing coilovers is misused. What makes a threaded body coilover system any different, functionality wise, from a sleeve like that of the Koni and GC? Function over form. If you want something a lot better that the Koni sport 'yellows' then get the Koni sport SPSS race valved shocks, a little more money ($1025/4-spss versus $516/4-OTS)), but worth it.

 

hm, interesting...

according to this thread, https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1322139

a lot of people says good things about the K-sports.

Also, what I see in a full coilover setup vs sleeved setups are because:

shorter shocks body -&gt; more travelling

and that full coilovers are strong and built into the body better than the hugged sleeves. I've the GC + Tokico illuminas setup on my 5th Gen and I do notice the huge difference when i switch over to Tokico RAK501 Full Coilover setup.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by stock94ex &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hm, interesting...

according to this thread, https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1322139

a lot of people says good things about the K-sports.

Also, what I see in a full coilover setup vs sleeved setups are because:

shorter shocks body -&gt; more travelling

and that full coilovers are strong and built into the body better than the hugged sleeves. I've the GC + Tokico illuminas setup on my 5th Gen and I do notice the huge difference when i switch over to Tokico RAK501 Full Coilover setup.</TD></TR></TABLE>

the ksport doesn't belong in the same sentence as the koni yellow.

more travel, sure--but it's easily fixed with GC top hats. full coilovers are no stronger than koni's w/ the appropriate GC sleeve. i've never heard of a ground control falling apart b/c it was too weak for the given stresses of street driving (or racing.)

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by stock94ex &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I've the GC + Tokico illuminas setup on my 5th Gen and I do notice the huge difference when i switch over to Tokico RAK501 Full Coilover setup.
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hmm i wonder then if the regular illuminas are different than the shocks provided in the RAK suspension. or if its just a matter of the spring rates that you felt. i would guess that the RAK springs are softer than typical GC springs. how would you describe the difference in ride quality between the two setups that you dis/liked?

i really wouldnt shy from GC adjustable springs over a threaded body suspension unit. there are advantages to a fully threaded system that has adjustable lower cups, but thats provided they stil allow adjustment, some kits are designed improperly that dont allow any real adjustment, makes it pointless and makes you question the rest of the design...

anyway. past that, then theres no difference, and id rather buy known good shocks like tokico illuminas or konis and find the right rate with GC that suited my need and be confident in the quality of the parts than these fly by night suspension parts peddlers.

did you know you can choose your own spring rates with GC? thats the real advantage that any other suspension kit cant provide the wide variety of spring rates possible.

 

bad-monkey - are you speaking from experience meaning you've drode in both or just from hearsays? What setup do you have? Some people who has K-sports switched from their Koni Yellows+GC setup or drove in both gave their thumbs up for a custome K-sport setup.

Tyson - I knew that I could choose diff spring rate for my car. I've spoke to some people and got a custom rate. But I don't know whether it was bad or something but the difference was obvious. My car is a lot more balance, meaning it's not as stiff while it doesn't roll as much. The Illuminas shocks looked the same except for the front which is shorter.

THat's why I'm looking for the better setup than my RAK in my 6th gen.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by stock94ex &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">bad-monkey - are you speaking from experience meaning you've drode in both or just from hearsays? What setup do you have? Some people who has K-sports switched from their Koni Yellows+GC setup or drove in both gave their thumbs up for a custome K-sport setup.

Tyson - I knew that I could choose diff spring rate for my car. I've spoke to some people and got a custom rate. But I don't know whether it was bad or something but the difference was obvious. My car is a lot more balance, meaning it's not as stiff while it doesn't roll as much. The Illuminas shocks looked the same except for the front which is shorter.

THat's why I'm looking for the better setup than my RAK in my 6th gen.</TD></TR></TABLE>

You've ridden one cheap taiwanese "full coilover", you've ridden them all. They're probably all coming from the same 2 or 3 factories over there anyway.

I have ground controls and konis. I've never had an issue with them at all, w/ regards to strength, performance, proper damping, or reliability. They work, and they work well on the street, and the track. My other car will be getting GC's and Koni Race shocks soon, because i'm sold on the benefits of both GC and Koni.

I don't see any race cars on D2's, KSports, or any other purple, green, or baby blue dampers, and that's probably for a reason. These coilover kits will probably work for street cars, but it's not hard to find something that works well on a street car. the question is, are ksports, d2's and the rest covered by a lifetime warranty on the street like koni? are they rebuildable, serviceable, or supported by the best customer service in the biz? they might be, but i doubt it.

what rates were you running, and at what ride ht?

 

i just got my tein ss, i like them and i the car is mostly daily drive...but i dont think it's the best bang for the bucks...d2 or ksport..i would say is the best bang

 

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hmm interesting.

 

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You've ridden one cheap taiwanese "full coilover", you've ridden them all. They're probably all coming from the same 2 or 3 factories over there anyway.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Just want to chime in with a "not true". Can't let one bad apple ruin it for the rest. I'll be moving along now..

 

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I don't see any race cars on D2's, KSports, or any other purple, green, or baby blue dampers, and that's probably for a reason. These coilover kits will probably work for street cars, but it's not hard to find something that works well on a street car. the question is, are ksports, d2's and the rest covered by a lifetime warranty on the street like koni? are they rebuildable, serviceable, or supported by the best customer service in the biz? they might be, but i doubt it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Actually, D2's are fully rebuildable and serviceable in the the U.S. I know this because I live right by the shop that is the exclusive North American distributor for D2. If there is ever a problem, they are sent there and fully rebuilt. D2's are excellent coilovers, unfortunately not enough people have tried them so they haven't gotten the respect they deserve yet. But look at the threads of people WHO HAVE tried them, I've yet to see one dissapointed user.

 

ahh well you could just be done with it and say to yourself, "Today, i am going to get Koni 2812/3012 and ERS springs." ahh heck with those , just get 4-way adj Motons, only $10k--pocket change!

 

Ksports are rebuildable in the U.S. as well.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PIC Performance &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Just want to chime in with a "not true". Can't let one bad apple ruin it for the rest. I'll be moving along now..</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes, perhaps i'm not being fair

and, taiwan is certainly capable of manufacturing fine stuff. just don't see enough of it.

 

I'd like to give Ksport a try. I'm sure the Koni/GC setup would be nice as well, about the same or may be better than my previous Illuminas/GC setup.

I'd have to wait and see. more feedback please.

 

from personal experience i give OMNI's a becuz i recently got into an accident and bent my whole suspension and even managed to crack my front brake rotor... for good quality and a cheap price i'll give it to OMNI but for the ride comfort i'd say they ride really rough

 

with my money, I chose Ground Control/Koni... I didn't have to make a post about which ones to buy. I simply payed attention to what all these other guys were running, and I paid special attention to the RoadRace forum as I trust these guys a lot more since they are racing their cars all the time. This was good for me as my car is an autocross/HPDE car with future intentions of a track car. Good luck with your future suspension purchase.