I own a 1999 Acura EL. (same as a 99 Civic 4 dr, but with an Si engine.) It has 280,000 kms on it, and the tranny makes some odd whiring noises, at first i thought it was a problem with the CV joint, but I had it checked out, and it turns out that the culpret is the tranny, it also dosent engage reverse all the time, at least, not as easily as it did when it was new. I was wondering what kind of tools I need to do a transmission replacement? I have a fair amount of knowledge of cars, but never had parents that were into cars, so I have no tools . I was also wondering if by any chance a Honda 6spd tranny would bolt up to a 99 civic Si block? say, from the TSX? you know, since I'm replacing it, I might as well improve it. Im going to check the for sale thread for a 5spd (since a 6spd probly wont work.) but does anyone have 5spd, in good condition, for a good price?
Thanks alot.

 

U need any type of B series trans, 6 speed(k series) will not work... LS gears are the longest, GSR is in the middle, and SI are short... all are b series transmissions. You need a hydro trans, not cable., and an impact or torque rench.

 

This probly sounds stupid, but do I have to yank the engine out, or can it be done from below, with the motor in place?

 

engine doesnt have to be taken out

 

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he has most likely a D16Z6 not a b16 in his car as it's the canadian version and we had in our Si's D16Z6's.

Edit...got confused


Modified by Mr.RHTuner at 9:41 PM 12/21/2005

 

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he has most likely a D16Z6 not a b16 in his car as it's the canadian version and we had in our Si's D16Z6's.

Most likely your Reverse Gear Syncromesh blocker ring is gone as your having a hard time going into reverse. Not worth repairing as it is a good amount of work but a new transmission for your car isn't very expensive.</TD></TR></TABLE>

He said 1999 though. That year EL had the F22B2.

To the OP.. your car is the same as one of the US accords... not a civic.

 

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he has most likely a D16Z6 not a b16 in his car as it's the canadian version and we had in our Si's D16Z6's.

Most likely your Reverse Gear Syncromesh blocker ring is gone as your having a hard time going into reverse. Not worth repairing as it is a good amount of work but a new transmission for your car isn't very expensive.</TD></TR></TABLE>

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He said 1999 though. That year EL had the F22B2.

To the OP.. your car is the same as one of the US accords... not a civic.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Ohh yeah, didnt realize, i was thinkin si=em1

 

are you saying that the engine I have in my car is an accord engine, because I dont think it is. I know it uses the same tranny as the integra from the same model years Its identical right down to the shift ****. I think its a B series.. All theses F's,B's,D's,1's, 6's and 2's have my head spinning. Perhaps a picture would help clarify?

excuse it for being a tad dirty ahah.
does anyone have a link to a tranny swap? so I have some idea of what im getting myself into? Thanks a bundle.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by acura_el2000 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">are you saying that the engine I have in my car is an accord engine, because I dont think it is. I know it uses the same tranny as the integra from the same model years Its identical right down to the shift ****. I think its a B series.. All theses F's,B's,D's,1's, 6's and 2's have my head spinning. Perhaps a picture would help clarify?

excuse it for being a tad dirty ahah.
does anyone have a link to a tranny swap? so I have some idea of what im getting myself into? Thanks a bundle.</TD></TR></TABLE>

That is without a doubt NOT a B series. Its D16Y8. I can assure you that it doesn't use Integra tranny either unless you get D series Integras in Canada and I am 99.999999999% sure you don't.

 

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That is without a doubt NOT a B series. Its D16Y8. I can assure you that it doesn't use Integra tranny either unless you get D series Integras in Canada and I am 99.999999999% sure you don't.</TD></TR></TABLE>


correct.
I dont know what the others are thinking but that looks JUST like a standard D-series motor

 

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he has most likely a D16Z6 not a b16 in his car as it's the canadian version and we had in our Si's D16Z6's.

Most likely your Reverse Gear Syncromesh blocker ring is gone as your having a hard time going into reverse. Not worth repairing as it is a good amount of work but a new transmission for your car isn't very expensive.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Well, considering reverse is not synchro'd... how do you figure this? You ever had a tranny apart? There isn't any "syncromesh blocker ring" that I ever saw in the 6+ trannies I had apart.

 

Here's a B series for you





^This is the crap u got.




Modified by JeffBro at 6:03 PM 12/21/2005

 

I haven't seen this much misinformation in one thread in a while.

You have an S40 transmission. It is found in the USDM '96-'00 Civic EX as well as your EL. Info for 92-95, which is basically the same as yours, except your tranny uses steel shift forks: http://home.cinci.rr.com/mistab0ne/tranny.html
It sounds like you need to rebuild your tranny. Reverse is not synchronized, it is simply an idler gear. If you have ground it a few times, you have flattened the peaks on the gear that allow it to engage the mainshaft and the 1-2 synchro sleeve. You may need to replace all three items for like-new shifting.

Here's some tranny removal info: https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=596878

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jim Truett &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I haven't seen this much misinformation in one thread in a while.

You have an S40 transmission. It is found in the USDM '96-'00 Civic EX as well as your EL. Info for 92-95, which is basically the same as yours, except your tranny uses steel shift forks: http://home.cinci.rr.com/mistab0ne/tranny.html
It sounds like you need to rebuild your tranny. Reverse is not synchronized, it is simply an idler gear. If you have ground it a few times, you have flattened the peaks on the gear that allow it to engage the mainshaft and the 1-2 synchro sleeve. You may need to replace all three items for like-new shifting.

Here's some tranny removal info: https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=596878</TD></TR></TABLE>

Well, I might not have posted a wealth of information to please you, but at least what I posted was correct. Care to show me how an idler gear engages a synchro sleeve? Id LOVE to see that one.

 

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Well, I might not have posted a wealth of information to please you, but at least what I posted was correct. Care to show me how an idler gear engages a synchro sleeve? Id LOVE to see that one.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Well seeing as you were one of the few who posted correct info, I am surprised by this. However, seeing as you have had six+ trannies apart, I would think you know how they work. Here are pics of the 1-2 synchro sleeve. See those teeth on the OD? Guess what, they are for reverse. The idler gear bridges the mainshaft and 1-2 synchro sleeve to reverse the rotation of the assembly.






Modified by Jim Truett at 2:51 AM 12/22/2005

 

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Well, considering reverse is not synchro'd... how do you figure this? You ever had a tranny apart? There isn't any "syncromesh blocker ring" that I ever saw in the 6+ trannies I had apart.</TD></TR></TABLE>


Sorry stupid part on me. Reverse doesn't have a syncromesh.
But there is such a thing as syncro(mesh) blocker rings...they are round and copper looking in the transmission that allows the syncro to grab the gear to spin the shaft. You will have 2 or 3 blocker rings on a transmission. 1-2. 3-4, 5th. It does exist but maybe with a different name but I know one of the names for this part is a "blocker ring"

I am currently in a transmissions only course so I do know what I am talking about, but I totally got confused with reverse. Reverse is a spur-type cut idler gear while the rest of the gears in a transmission are helical cut.

My bad on that.

 

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Well seeing as you were one of the few who posted correct info, I am surprised by this. However, seeing as you have had six+ trannies apart, I would think you know how they work. Here are pics of the 1-2 synchro sleeve. See those teeth on the OD? Guess what, they are for reverse. The idler gear bridges the mainshaft and 1-2 synchro sleeve to reverse the rotation of the assembly.
Modified by Jim Truett at 2:51 AM 12/22/2005</TD></TR></TABLE>

Correct, but what you are referring to is the synchro HUB, not the sleeve like you originally stated

 

Sorry, but this is a synchro hub:

What I referred to and posted was indeed a synchro sleeve.

Main Entry: sleeve
Pronunciation: 'slEv
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English sleve, from Old English slIefe; perhaps akin to Old English slEfan to slip (clothes) on, slupan to slip, Old High German sliofan, Latin lubricus slippery
1 a : a part of a garment covering an arm b : SLEEVELET
2 a : a tubular part (as a hollow axle or a bushing) designed to fit over another part b : an open-ended flat or tubular packaging or cover; especially : JACKET 3c(2)


Main Entry: hub
Pronunciation: 'h&b
Function: noun
Etymology: probably alteration of 2hob
1 : the central part of a circular object (as a wheel or propeller)
2 a : a center of activity : FOCAL POINT b : an airport or city through which an airline routes most of its traffic
3 : a steel punch from which a working die for a coin or medal is made

Go grab a Helms and flip to the manual tranny section if you wish.

 

That's great man...but I know what I am talking about.

This is a syncromesh blocker ring for those of you "non-belivers"

 

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This is a syncromesh blocker ring for those of you "non-belivers"


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You may know your stuff, just not Honda manual boxes specifically.

 

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actually not yet.
I'm basing my knowledge off a 94 cavalier transmission that I just did a whole overhaul in class. They buy the cheapest transmissions to work on but my guess the transmission internals as far as syncro/gearing placement would still be fairly similar.

but I'm not saying I'm a pro...still learing

 

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but I'm not saying I'm a pro...still learing </TD></TR></TABLE>

So am I.

I have a heavy mechanical background, but minimal formal education. My knowledge simply comes from rebuilding these things and having to educate the parts counter guy as to what I need.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jim Truett &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Sorry, but this is a synchro hub:

What I referred to and posted was indeed a synchro sleeve.

Go grab a Helms and flip to the manual tranny section if you wish. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah, you're right. I didn't take a close enough look at the picture you had of the sleeve. I can see now that it is indeed a sleeve and I also can see where the shift fork would go. Oh well, win some loose some, right?

 

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No you not have to yank the motor out.