Well, I'll be getting a CRX within a month or so (God willing I can find one). For a while I was looking at a B16, but it's just too expensive, and I'd like to keep my first swap simple.

I want to stick with the D series, but I'm not sure which motor is the best choice. My goal is to build a fun, reliable, naturally aspirated daily driven car. A few bolt ons, and maybe bumping the compression a bit, is as far as I want to go on the engine.

So what motor should I be looking at? What's the difference between the SOHC VTEC and the DOHC ZC? Help me out here.

And if there's already a thread like this please link me, searching for "d series" is a bitch.

 

Mini-me motors are fun..and cheap..

 

D16A6 FO LIFE! lol

 

id vote d16a6 so you dont have to go obd1, unless you dont mind then go d16z6 (vtec)... another common choice if you want to stay obd0 is the dohc zc.

 

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Damn right!
If you find an Si, you get an A6 to start with. It's a good motor, cheap as hell, decent on gas, and quick enough. If you want to get faster, I think you'd be better off boosting it, you're not getting a hell of a lot more power from a mini me or Z6 swap. A SOHC VTEC ZC is basically a D16Z6, and the DOHC ZC is a nice motor, high revving, drops right in, and supposedly can play with the B16's. I have my CRX's stock A6 I rebuilt, and I love it. If you autocross, use an A6 and you can stay in CSP.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by downest &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
and the DOHC ZC is a nice motor, high revving, drops right in, .</TD></TR></TABLE>

(Stock) DOHC ZC motors hate to be revved..

 

Really? The DOHC ZC is the only one I haven't driven, but I've heard it's basically a high-revver, hence the rough idle, as the cams are made for the top-end.

 

If you can actually find a ZC that is.


JDM D16 Vtec is marvelous. I have one in my Civic coupe, and one is going into my CRX soon. I can't wait.

 

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What car did that come out of? And where could I buy one?

 

how much do you wanna spend??... i like the ZC... but for the money get a A6

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by downest &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Really? The DOHC ZC is the only one I haven't driven, but I've heard it's basically a high-revver, hence the rough idle, as the cams are made for the top-end.</TD></TR></TABLE>

The stock 88-91 dohc zc makes it's peak HP at like 6500-6700rpm..I dont know why honda set the rev limit so high on that motor..

EDIT :: Here's a dyno graph of pre obd dohc zc with bolt-ons and 89 integra ecu..

Click Here for Bigger image




Modified by Mr.speaker at 2:20 AM 12/21/2005


Modified by Mr.speaker at 2:20 AM 12/21/2005

 

http://www.hmotorsonline.com

The best JDM Motor site around. Call and ask them, because the D16 isn't listed on the site.

They are all out of DOHC ZC's and don't plan on getting anymore.

 

i got a d16a6 for 300 compleate hitme up at my email platinumsof2@hotmail.com

 

ZC's are marked D16A8/A9... they're out there you just gotta search...you can get a long block w/ trans and ECU for $600-800...

 

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And some are marked "ZC"

 

ohh btw my A6 is SC'd

 

JDM D15B VTEC

 

no the best is the d15b7 best engine ever haaaaaaaaaaaa

 

z6 or a6 would be my only two choices

 

D16A6

Very pure engine.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 88 rex &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">z6 or a6 would be my only two choices</TD></TR></TABLE>
z6 block with a6 head high compression mang

 

Dohc ZC.

European "ZC" D16A9, 130hp at 6800rpm and best torque at 5800. Who said it wont like to rev? It doesent go anywhere unless you rev it to 5k.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Twilight &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Dohc ZC.

European "ZC" D16A9, 130hp at 6800rpm and best torque at 5800. Who said it wont like to rev? It doesent go anywhere unless you rev it to 5k.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I didnt say they didn't make high rpm power..I said they dont like to be revved..And they dont..I know so many people that have spun bearings in ZC motor with the stock zc ecu or pm6 ecu..By the way look at the dyno graph I posted,,It makes it peak tq at about 4500-4600rpm and that was with a better ecu,intake,header,and exhaust.

 

JDM
D15B VTEC
http://usedforeignengines.com
He gives 6 month UNLIMITED mileage waranty
mine cranked on the 1st try
after 14months I cant still rub my hand all over the engine, even bottom
and it come back clean

beat that guys!

This will be the simplest swap for your car too

WHOA!!
I just reread your post
Naturally aspirated????
It wont be cheap if you want to convert it to carb


Modified by aal at 7:29 AM 12/21/2005


Modified by aal at 7:40 AM 12/21/2005

 

No Offence to this site cause its by far the best but try http://www.d-series.org http://www.nonvtec.com or http://www.thezcr.com you should find some stuff but try d series first