Please help on my H22 Project.
Hi, Im trying to make my H22v to 2.4L Vtec turbo. I seen it was done by super street now i wanna make it happen. but i heard some stuff about no turbo on a h22 but i dont really care cuz i have spare motor, just wanna have some power out of h22. anyways I just need some suggestion what i should do first? please give me some suggestion asap. thanx
dont tell me what to do. i dont care bout ur opinion but Im really gonna do this project. so anyone who is not a hater please help me out.
Im not knockin on your project but I just think that its going to cost quite a bit of money. You are are gonna wanna get the block sleeved and maybe bored larger than the origanal 87mm bore size. The crankshaft will need to counterground to increase the stroke and should in get you up to your 2.4 liter mark. The unfortunite part about doing both of these is that the increase in stroke will increase the side loads on the cylnder walls and create distortion. And if you bore you cylinders larger they will be thinner and this will not help matters at all. In my opinion you would be better off with a stock bore and stock stroke and adding more boost. This would give you a more reliable setup than trying to run a 2.4 liter setup. Im not saying that it can't be done or that your dumb for trying it. Im just stating that it may not be the best route. I would love to see it though. Tons of stump pulling torque. Good luck if you try to go for it. Sry, didn't mean to come off as an a-hole.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CivicSiDriver02 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Im not knockin on your project but I just think that its going to cost quite a bit of money. You are are gonna wanna get the block sleeved and maybe bored larger than the origanal 87mm bore size. The crankshaft will need to counterground to increase the stroke and should in get you up to your 2.4 liter mark. The unfortunite part about doing both of these is that the increase in stroke will increase the side loads on the cylnder walls and create distortion. And if you bore you cylinders larger they will be thinner and this will not help matters at all. In my opinion you would be better off with a stock bore and stock stroke and adding more boost. This would give you a more reliable setup than trying to run a 2.4 liter setup. Im not saying that it can't be done or that your dumb for trying it. Im just stating that it may not be the best route. I would love to see it though. Tons of stump pulling torque. Good luck if you try to go for it. Sry, didn't mean to come off as an a-hole.</TD></TR></TABLE>
w3rd...
p.S..95killrvtec..... howd you happen to lose 2% in 4 days??
w3rd...
p.S..95killrvtec..... howd you happen to lose 2% in 4 days??
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 95killrvtec »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hi, Im trying to make my H22v to 2.4L Vtec turbo. I seen it was done by super street now i wanna make it happen. but i heard some stuff about no turbo on a h22 but i dont really care cuz i have spare motor, just wanna have some power out of h22. anyways I just need some suggestion what i should do first? please give me some suggestion asap. thanx</TD></TR></TABLE>
if money is not the issue, then go ahead.
otherwise, it's not worth it for close to 50 grands
if money is not the issue, then go ahead.
otherwise, it's not worth it for close to 50 grands
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thanx for the comments. but again if i put this up in honda tech the money wise is good. I just need to know where to get and how to do it. and I heard that crankshaft has to do nothen to do with it. friend of mine told me, he seen it done. but crankshaft has to be adj. a lil bit thats about it. yeah u are true about thinner walls but but sleevin block will help. Im not tryin to boost that much.. only 15psi at the most. if this work out really good my est Whp will b 550 around there... but I really need suggestion though please help me out. The money is not the problem right now. the problem is how and where to get it done. Please help a HONDA FAN OUT!
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93h22a1vtec »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">def sleeve, and do a 89 bore, and you can use ur block, but get an h23/f22 crank</TD></TR></TABLE>
what he said.
H23/F22 crank and 89mm bore will get you 2364cc.
but since you sound like you have no F*ing clue what you are talking about. I would find the best shop in your area and just give them your car and $10k and tell them to do it.
what he said.
H23/F22 crank and 89mm bore will get you 2364cc.
but since you sound like you have no F*ing clue what you are talking about. I would find the best shop in your area and just give them your car and $10k and tell them to do it.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by H23 Power »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
what he said.
H23/F22 crank and 89mm bore will get you 2364cc.
but since you sound like you have no F*ing clue what you are talking about. I would find the best shop in your area and just give them your car and $10k and tell them to do it.</TD></TR></TABLE>
rofl ur a funny guy. how old is u man? im not tryin to start a fight... i dont think u dont know wat ur talkin bout.. i had my lude since 96 ok?> i did all the mods by my self cuz i have all the tools and ur pretty stupid if i pay 10stack stupidass whiteboy....
what he said.
H23/F22 crank and 89mm bore will get you 2364cc.
but since you sound like you have no F*ing clue what you are talking about. I would find the best shop in your area and just give them your car and $10k and tell them to do it.</TD></TR></TABLE>
rofl ur a funny guy. how old is u man? im not tryin to start a fight... i dont think u dont know wat ur talkin bout.. i had my lude since 96 ok?> i did all the mods by my self cuz i have all the tools and ur pretty stupid if i pay 10stack stupidass whiteboy....
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rofl ur a funny guy. how old is u man? im not tryin to start a fight... i dont think u dont know wat ur talkin bout.. i had my lude since 96 ok?> i did all the mods by my self cuz i have all the tools and ur pretty stupid if i pay 10stack stupidass whiteboy....
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learn english or stfu.
rofl ur a funny guy. how old is u man? im not tryin to start a fight... i dont think u dont know wat ur talkin bout.. i had my lude since 96 ok?> i did all the mods by my self cuz i have all the tools and ur pretty stupid if i pay 10stack stupidass whiteboy....
</TD></TR></TABLE>learn english or stfu.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 95killrvtec »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">rofl ur a funny guy. how old is u man? im not tryin to start a fight... i dont think u dont know wat ur talkin bout.. i had my lude since 96 ok?> i did all the mods by my self cuz i have all the tools and ur pretty stupid if i pay 10stack stupidass whiteboy....
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woah calm down there. you have to realize that what you want to do is very extreme, not too many people have dont this kind of setup because it expensive and is bound to break quickly. pumping 500 whp from 2.4 liters will not last very long, maybe a drag season. i'm all about a safe, reliable, daily drivable motor, and i think most other lude owners are too, and thats why we are telling you not to do this to your car. why do you think drag racers go through motors so often? and don't even tell me that it's because they can't build motors, it's their job to build motors.
well back to the topic, if you want this 550 whp beast of a motor i would worry more about tuning rather than displacement. use alcahol or something very high in octane, strong ignition, and make sure that you have a very efficient turbo and intercooler that make boost with low temps. yo might want to ask some guys in the turbo forum, since we like more realistic setups in the prelude forum.
</TD></TR></TABLE>woah calm down there. you have to realize that what you want to do is very extreme, not too many people have dont this kind of setup because it expensive and is bound to break quickly. pumping 500 whp from 2.4 liters will not last very long, maybe a drag season. i'm all about a safe, reliable, daily drivable motor, and i think most other lude owners are too, and thats why we are telling you not to do this to your car. why do you think drag racers go through motors so often? and don't even tell me that it's because they can't build motors, it's their job to build motors.
well back to the topic, if you want this 550 whp beast of a motor i would worry more about tuning rather than displacement. use alcahol or something very high in octane, strong ignition, and make sure that you have a very efficient turbo and intercooler that make boost with low temps. yo might want to ask some guys in the turbo forum, since we like more realistic setups in the prelude forum.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BB6racer »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
woah calm down there. you have to realize that what you want to do is very extreme, not too many people have dont this kind of setup because it expensive and is bound to break quickly. pumping 500 whp from 2.4 liters will not last very long, maybe a drag season. i'm all about a safe, reliable, daily drivable motor, and i think most other lude owners are too, and thats why we are telling you not to do this to your car. why do you think drag racers go through motors so often? and don't even tell me that it's because they can't build motors, it's their job to build motors.
well back to the topic, if you want this 550 whp beast of a motor i would worry more about tuning rather than displacement. use alcahol or something very high in octane, strong ignition, and make sure that you have a very efficient turbo and intercooler that make boost with low temps. yo might want to ask some guys in the turbo forum, since we like more realistic setups in the prelude forum.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Well put.
woah calm down there. you have to realize that what you want to do is very extreme, not too many people have dont this kind of setup because it expensive and is bound to break quickly. pumping 500 whp from 2.4 liters will not last very long, maybe a drag season. i'm all about a safe, reliable, daily drivable motor, and i think most other lude owners are too, and thats why we are telling you not to do this to your car. why do you think drag racers go through motors so often? and don't even tell me that it's because they can't build motors, it's their job to build motors.
well back to the topic, if you want this 550 whp beast of a motor i would worry more about tuning rather than displacement. use alcahol or something very high in octane, strong ignition, and make sure that you have a very efficient turbo and intercooler that make boost with low temps. yo might want to ask some guys in the turbo forum, since we like more realistic setups in the prelude forum.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Well put.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by H23 Power »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
but since you sound like you have no F*ing clue what you are talking about. I would find the best shop in your area and just give them your car and $10k and tell them to do it.</TD></TR></TABLE>
but he'll probably need more than $10k, and it'll probably still blow up within the year.
but since you sound like you have no F*ing clue what you are talking about. I would find the best shop in your area and just give them your car and $10k and tell them to do it.</TD></TR></TABLE>
but he'll probably need more than $10k, and it'll probably still blow up within the year.
pm 2point6 and ask him for some advice or better yet turn the project over to him as he is a guru on stroked H22's. I'm not sure why you are locked into 2.4 litres, especially since the stock stroke can produce 550 whp (turbo) vastly more reliably than a stroked motor.
Good luck and let us know how it turns out.
Good luck and let us know how it turns out.
95killrVtec --don't bother with building your motor. take the money and spend it on grammar and driving lessons. You'll be way faster, and people will be able to understand you better...
wow. People are in honda tech are pretty damn immature because Im doin this project no matter what. first, some of the haters in the honda tech really do not know what they are talking about for instance, learn how to speak english, get a new idea, or it would not work that way. Just because you guys think it would not work, it cannot be done? False. I already gotten ideas threw E-mail, and it is goin to happen 2.4L DOHC VTEC TURBO. any question? please let me know and if YOU do not knwo what your talking about please stay off this fourm. thank you very much for ur inconvient.
ps- Im 17 years old but my parents are both Doctors... hmmm NO money problem. Have A nice day People in honda tech who do not know what YOUR TALKING ABOUT.
ps- Im 17 years old but my parents are both Doctors... hmmm NO money problem. Have A nice day People in honda tech who do not know what YOUR TALKING ABOUT.
Anyways, back to the project. Now some peeps told me things off E-mail and show me some pix about my blocks. but where should i go bore my block and get sleeved from? Thats main thing im doin right for now. my 2nd step is low my compression ratio down for boosting on a big Vtec motor. I seen h22a turbo w/ stock internals and it blewed the motor in about good 2 to 3 months. He was drivin daily on 5psi. please help.
im gonna be honest...ur 17 so im gonna say you dont know as much as us who have been on the scene longer than u.. however ill help you out. 2point6 has a 2.6 litre h22. he is the man to talk about on the stroking. he also has a forum. at http://www.collectiveracing.net. if your doing to do this dont cut corners. sleeve the block with darton or golden eagle sleeves. bore it to 89 mm. any thinner and your going to blow it up with 15lbs of boost. however if you ever want to add more boost you might be in trouble. there are kits out there the best in my opinion is crower. but h23 crank and rods with a custom piston would put you pretty close to you goal. if you wanted, get some better cooling and you could actually run 11:1 compression and 15 lbs and see more horsepower than low compression. believe me it can be done.
Modified by ilikehonda at 9:39 AM 12/22/2005
Modified by ilikehonda at 9:39 AM 12/22/2005
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sharkcohen »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">There's no point increasing the displacement .2 L if you are going to turbo the motor.</TD></TR></TABLE>
it'll just weaken the block more than necessary. You can meet your power goals without increasing displacement (you should still sleeve it though).
We have been trying to tell you this is a bad idea, and asked why you are so set on 2.4 L, but instead of taking advice from those of us that know better, you call us immature? Just because you don't want to hear the truth, doesn't make us immature.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 95killrvtec »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ps- Im 17 years old but my parents are both Doctors... hmmm NO money problem. Have A nice day People in honda tech who do not know what YOUR TALKING ABOUT.</TD></TR></TABLE>
ps- keep bragging about how much money you're parents make, that'll get you real far
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it'll just weaken the block more than necessary. You can meet your power goals without increasing displacement (you should still sleeve it though). We have been trying to tell you this is a bad idea, and asked why you are so set on 2.4 L, but instead of taking advice from those of us that know better, you call us immature? Just because you don't want to hear the truth, doesn't make us immature.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 95killrvtec »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ps- Im 17 years old but my parents are both Doctors... hmmm NO money problem. Have A nice day People in honda tech who do not know what YOUR TALKING ABOUT.</TD></TR></TABLE>
ps- keep bragging about how much money you're parents make, that'll get you real far
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