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Old Dec 19, 2005 | 08:14 PM
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I know this is the prelude forum but i know a bunch of people have done the legend caliper swap. I'm wondering if the caliper brackets from non dual piston legend calipers would fit on the legend dual piston calipers. Reason i ask is cause i can't find the dual piston calipers at a junk yard and the dealer/car parts places dont sell the brackets with the calipers.
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Old Dec 20, 2005 | 06:52 AM
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i am wondering the same thing

hey also i have a question would the prelude brake pads fit onto the legend dual piston calipers??
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Old Dec 20, 2005 | 06:56 AM
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I got my calipers from http://www.thepartsbin.com. Whatever they sent me fit right on my car. NO modifications were needed.

93-96 VTEC brake pads fit the calipers. You will need to use worn down 93-96 brake pad metal backings as shims though.

I like my brake setup. Obviously, I noticed a big difference on the track. Daily driving, it's not a worthwhile mod, trust me.

The only problem I have with them is the clanking the metal backings and the pads make when going over bumps. I need to fix that. Not sure how though.
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Old Dec 20, 2005 | 07:07 AM
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andy you could always call up carbotech and get them to make you a custom thickness pad....that should solve your problem....

you really noticed that big of a difference on the track??
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Old Dec 20, 2005 | 07:11 AM
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I'll bet it made trail-braking a lot easier.

I've noticed the rear brakes on mine are a little weak.

AndyD...do you have your stock rear calipers? my right-rear is sticking...
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Old Dec 20, 2005 | 07:50 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mgags7 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
you really noticed that big of a difference on the track??</TD></TR></TABLE>BIG difference? No. Only difference I noticed was consistent feeling throughout my sessions with the Legends. I was able to brake a little later into turns coming off of high speed straights. That's it.

If you are asking me if it is worth it to upgrade from perfectly working Si/VTEC calipers to Legends, I would say NO!! Is it worth the upgrade if your Si/VTEC calipers are bad and you street your car only, I would say NO!! Is it worth it to upgrade to Legends if your calipers are bad and you track your car, I would say YES!!

The reason why I "upgraded" was because the calipers needed changing anyway and I track my car, why not. If I didn't need new calipers, I would've just gone with a nice set of brake pads.

If my car was strictly a street car like most people on these sites, I would NOT have upgraded. There is absolutely NO need if you don't track your car. I did it just as more of a safety precaution.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by The_Sober &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'll bet it made trail-braking a lot easier.

I've noticed the rear brakes on mine are a little weak.

AndyD...do you have your stock rear calipers? my right-rear is sticking...</TD></TR></TABLE>

I had to replace my rear calipers too. They are the regular Si rears that come on the car from the factory. I am not sure if my 4WS affects this but I did not notice any difference with trail-braking. My car behaves VERY neutral on the track. Even my friends are amazed. However, I have never driven a regular 2WS Prelude on the track to compare.
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Old Dec 20, 2005 | 07:51 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AndyD &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

The only problem I have with them is the clanking the metal backings and the pads make when going over bumps. I need to fix that. Not sure how though. </TD></TR></TABLE>

yep i have that exact same problem.. i think that the ledgend has some foil shims that are supposed to hold the pads, and they don't come with the bracker or caliper..
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parts 14 and 18 in this pic
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Old Dec 21, 2005 | 01:31 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by snowblind7x &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm wondering if the caliper brackets from non dual piston legend calipers would fit on the legend dual piston calipers.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Dec 21, 2005 | 10:46 AM
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yeah, I just noticed that...we never answered the question he asked...
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Old Dec 21, 2005 | 01:14 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by The_Sober &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah, I just noticed that...we never answered the question he asked...</TD></TR></TABLE>

haha, yeah, i just noticed too I actually need to know this asap so i can go down to kragen and order the dual piston calipers if those brackets will indeed fit.
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Old Dec 21, 2005 | 01:35 PM
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The problem is that legend two piston caliper discs are 28 mm and prelude ones are 23 mm.

If you fix legend caliper + bracket to prelude knuckle, there is much bigger clearance between the disc surface and bracket than in legend.

If the pads become very very used, there is a risk the remaining metal part of pad will be dropped between disc and bracked, causing wheel blockage

The safest solution (that I did in my car) is to combine legend caliper and prelude vtec bracket, prelude vtec pads and to make a kind of inserts to make the pistons 5 mm longer as the disc is 5 mm thicker.

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Old Dec 21, 2005 | 03:11 PM
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the prelude vtec bracket will fit on the legend caliper?
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Old Dec 21, 2005 | 03:56 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by The_Sober &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah, I just noticed that...we never answered the question he asked...</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes we did. The answer is, he doesn't need them.
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Old Dec 21, 2005 | 09:06 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AndyD &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yes we did. The answer is, he doesn't need them. </TD></TR></TABLE>

If i have to spend the money for new calipers either way, why wouldn't i get better calipers for the same price? So even though i may not NEED them, I might as well get the best bang for my buck. Wouldn't you agree?
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