Donf is doing the build and i'm shooting for around 240whp heres the setup lemme know what you think.

the head b16
portwork is being done by Donf
omnipower vavle springs & retainers
omnipower flat faced vavles
ferrea bronze vavle guides
BC specV cams
skunk2 cam gears
old style twm itb's the two piece one
rc 550cc injectors

the block
goldeneagle sleeved block 84mm bore b18c1
eagle crank stock replacement oil holes chamfered
cp pistons 12:5to1 coated by tbone (incase i decide to spray it)
carrilo A beam rods
balanced rotating assembly
itr oil and water pumps
toda high power timing belt
smsp b20 header

tranny
usdm b16 tranny with 4.785 final drive
type r lsd

going to be tuned with aem ems




Modified by 93-lsvtec-eh2 at 3:34 AM 12/18/2005


Modified by 93-lsvtec-eh2 at 2:09 AM 12/21/2005

 

i dont know about 240... but my guess is around 210-220

and why the eagle crank?

and what header? thats kinda important...

 

sorry forgot about the header.

i bought the eagle crank because i didn't trust buying a used one.

and 210-220 i have a friend with a 12:5to1 1.8 that makes 210whp

 

Unless you are running 112 octane or higher you are most definently not goign to get 240 whp out of that setup.

My 12.5 CR 2.0 motor is shoudl be putting down aroudn 200 with a stock header on a dynojet on 93 octane gas....admitedly I need an ignition system/header, and some more tuning, but you get the idea. Low octane fuel is a pretty limiting factor once you get to a certian point.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by omniman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> 240 whp is possible with b19 on pump gas and ITB's. i made over 230 with a plenum mani. just have to know what your doing.</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by omniman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> 240 whp is possible with b19 on pump gas and ITB's. i made over 230 with a plenum mani. just have to know what your doing.</TD></TR></TABLE>


Will you please tune my motor then?

 

well hopefully i can get someone that knows their stuff to tune it for me. i'm going to run two maps one for race gas and one for pump gas.

after i break he motor in i might spray it with a directport 75 shot just to see how it reacts


Modified by 93-lsvtec-eh2 at 6:16 PM 12/18/2005

 

SO you are goign to store one map on CD and one map on the EMS? Just curious....I wasn't aware you could store multiple fuel/ignition maps on one EMS.

 

most likely that or just save one map to my laptop and use the current map in the ems

 

Then I certianly hope you don't plan on changing the cam timing via the gears, the fuel pressure via regulator, or anythign like that.

 

I have not dynoed the BC5's yet so I really do not have the answer. I was going to do a test on another motor but ran out of time. The only person I know who has run them lost BHP. We did the head for the B-18 that made 210 WHP with BC4's just adding 200 cc's should be 233 WHP. Now that Neil has re-ringed his B-18 I would like to see the numbers.

 

Steve(Omniman) recently made over 240whp on his BC5's. IIRC, his compression is currently in the mid 11's. That might not happen here though. It could just be that the BC5's really like the flat top pistons in his motor. I guess we'll have to wait and see

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by xEnderx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Then I certianly hope you don't plan on changing the cam timing via the gears, the fuel pressure via regulator, or anythign like that.</TD></TR></TABLE>

yea i don't plan on it. it will most likely stay on the racegas tune all the time because it's going to be mainly a track car.

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They probably had the cam timing wrong or some other problem. you should have the person IM me so i can give them a few pointers on how to set them up.

there were at least 3 witnesses when i put the BC 5 in and gained about 30 whp over the stock gsr cams on the dyno. the dyno sheet was posted with the before and after gains.

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i might pm you to get some pointers on how to set them up just to get a starting point.

 

It was Tom(Tbone). IIRC, his valve sizes would not allow him to adjust the cam gears at all without valve contact.

 

yea he wasn't able to go but i think a couple degrees without clearance problems

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by omniman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> there will not be much diff in power race vs street if the compression is under 12. probably just tune it on the gas your going to run. also a little tip for road racers. when your on the dyno after you finish take out a degree of timing and add a little fuel 1/4 point to half point. when you get on the track there are conditions that cant be duplicated on a chassis dyno and this will help your motor last longer. </TD></TR></TABLE>

dod you ave any clearance problems when adjusting the cam gears?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93-lsvtec-eh2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Donf is doing the build and i'm shooting for around 240whp heres the setup lemme know what you think.

the head
portwork is being done by Donf
omnipower vavle springs & retainers
omnipower flat faced vavles
ferrea bronze vavle guides
BC specV cams
skunk2 cam gears
old style twm itb's the two piece one
rc 550cc injectors

the block
goldeneagle sleeved block 84mm bore
eagle crank stock replacement oil holes chamfered
cp pistons 12:5to1 coated by tbone (incase i decide to spray it)
carrilo A beam rods
balanced rotating assembly
itr oil and water pumps
toda high power timing belt
smsp b20 header

tranny
usdm b16 tranny with 4.785 final drive
type r lsd

going to be tuned with aem ems




Modified by 93-lsvtec-eh2 at 3:34 AM 12/18/2005</TD></TR></TABLE>

hey i have a Eagle crankshaft for sale. it is the Light weight knife edged crank its abot 10lbs lighter than stock it fits the b18a/b and b20 it has 89mm stroke never been installed never been used, i will sell it to you for 450 shiped in 48 states it originally cost me 1,100$ now goes for 800$

send me a PM or email

 

no thanks i have a gsr block and crank

 

i guess it really depends how far you go with it.

 

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i dont, but some people often do. </TD></TR></TABLE>

how far did you go with the cam gears?

 

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