This has been the most antagonizing and stressful swap that i've ever done, i just finished soldering close to 60 different NEW connections. Everything is a mess, in fact if it was up to me i'd ******* throw this piece of **** junk car off a cliff, **** on it and then set it on fire.

It truly is testing my patience (or the lack of) and is testing my love for cars. After something like this, i do not ever again want to do swaps for anyone. expletive

ANyway, here are the problem, let me hear what you think...

First, let's start off with pics of the car(s)...my car next to that piece of **** after i had to boost it:



Case #1
I can't find the plug for these, but i think i figured it out, do however want to know what those 2 wires that i have go into, not the **** i am pointing to, the two stripped wires on the left attached to a plug that goes into the intake manifold?!?!?!


I think this is the correct plug, i had it plugged into the tb, but i found another plug that goes in there, so this one is right i hope.


Case #2
HOW THE expletive DO I ATTACH THE CLUTCH CABLE, to that ******* lever, i don't get it.


Case #3
This plug is right under the distributor, where does it go?



Case #4
What hose goes here?


Case #5
Where does this go?


Case #6
Thermoswitch? WHERE





Modified by Alexandre! at 12:14 PM 12/17/2005

 

I'll try to help

Case 1. that arrangement you are pointing at is MAP sensor/ Canister purge valve (refer now to case 6-bottom photo) - those two plugs you have left go to the map/purge valve assembly. (mounts further to the left on the upper firewall as you look at the car from the front).

The grey plug DOES go to the TPS sensor (not sure if the two outside wires need swapping - thinking of MPFI swap here)

Case 2. Loosen the nut on the cable and you'll figure it out

Case 3. O2 sensor plug

Thats about all I know/can see

 

maybe you should really learn how to do a swap before telling someone that you can, when you really cant.

also this is why you put the wiring harness on the engine before you drop it in, so its easier.

so what motor? and what wiring harness?

case #1, i see a gray plug when stock it should have come clear. what wiring harness are you using? you know you could have just used the stock plug for the map sensor if it had it. do you see that little black box that is the map sensor, well that gray plug plugs into the map sensor

case #2 now this is going to be alittle hard to explain but ok. you see that little metal rusted piece, that has to end up on the bottom of the clutch arm. you pull up on that little rubber boot rigth above that rusted piece and youll see the clutch cable. now on the clutch arm there will be alittle slot just big enough for the cable to get through. at the end the cable should be going through the circular piece on the end of the clutch arm with that rusted plate up against the bottom

case #3 thats either the blk/yel and blu connector for the dist or thats the 1 wire plug for the o2 sensor

 

1. no idea, do u have a wiring schematic?
2. r u using an integra cable, that is a b18a?
3. o2 sensor
4. is that the vss? u need to run a cable vss
5. need to see where it is coming from
6. on the backside of the block, near oil filter

 

case #4 looks like the vss, not sure though because i would need to see a pic from more far away

case #5 is a vacuum hose we would need to see a bigger pic of that too to be able to see where its coming from

case #6 that is the cooling fan wires, it goes to the cooling fan sensor? idk if thats what its called but it controls the cooling fan. it does on the back of the block around the oil filter area. but also depends on the year it might go on the thermostat housing in whihc case you can either take the one from the stock motor and put it on the back of the block or if you have a connector for the thermostat one then you can just splice the wires

 

I've done quite a few swaps before, but i've only owned EG/EK cars, never an EF.

Instead of assuming ****, why not listen. It's a '93 b18a1 going into a 91 civic cx. I used the DX harness, i also ran an obd0 distributor and ECU.

Do i need that o2 sensor plug or no?

Thanks for all the help, i am starting to get the big picture.

 

Not to be an *** but you really need someone around that is familiar with honda motor swaps, all the problems you are having are common motor swap issues/steps, not that hard. sounds like you jumped into this w/o a good plan.

 

Perhaps these will help?

 

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Do i need that o2 sensor plug or no?
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i dont think anyone of us is assuming anything.

yes you need the o2 plug. you plug it into the o2 sensor.

 

Case#2 – Loosen the bracket the holds the cable on the trans first. Connect the cable end. Loosen the plastic adjustment nut all the way. Re-attach the bracket.

Case#3 – I think that look like the other O2 cable. Maybe not.

Case#4 – Speedo cable goes there

Case#5 – Vacuum tube, just use a splitter and connect it into one of the other lines. There is good vacuum diagram I use that is floating around on this site. It helps a lot.

 

tyro, thanks a lot man. Guys like you are what make honda-tech the amazing resource that it is.

Thanks everyone.

Last thing i gotta do is cut the shifter linkage and reweld it. I will let you guys know how it goes.

 

Can someone tell me what the two stripped wires are for on the left side of the picture? red/yellow and green....

 

red/green...most likely those are for the intake air temp sensor - sensor screws into manifold with two screws and is cream/white in color, accepts a two conductor round plug.

 

yup IAT sensor

 

That IAT sensor, do i have to run wires to the ecu for it? I didn't see anything about it in the swap write ups.

 

I was just wondering, how come you got so much rust in your engine bay???

 

you said ur using the dx harness. .. tell me u did do the MPFI conversion .... right??? otherwise ur gona be VERY confused if u couldnt get this far... no offence bro but this ls swap is just about plug and play, with exceptions to the fame u g2 smashin, linkage, and where the front mount from the origional motor mount went..

 

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haha you really fucked up bro. but let me try to help u out. try to take it one step at a time. take a deep breath and read the codes from the ECU. write em down since youll prolly have a lot. take care of the codes one at a time. looks like ur havin a problem because the map sensor and the tps sensor are the same plug. try switching em till those two codes go away. that 2 wire connector with 2 seperate wires is on the back of the block near the oil filter (above to the left if i remember right)

worry about the clutch cable after you get it running code free. just loosen the djusting nut all the way and slip it in the black lever. then pull up on the lever and slip the rest of the cable in the bracket.

good luck dont get overwhelmed.

Am i too late? did you get it running?

 

I will let you guys know what happens tomorrow. I will try to get the her started...

 

DOOD the things you have done are so easy. If you dont know shet about swaping engines or EFs in anyway dont do it. First thing you have to do is know the parts you are having problems with. Then make a search for it because I bet there are more than 5 threads about it. I might be part of the problem but is for the best of you.

 

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the reason you didnt see anything about the IAT is because its a plug and play issue. you take the plug off the old motor and stick it on the new motor, you dont need to change anything because its all plug and play.

 

So your swap is obd1 meaning obd1 distrib and are you using a 4 wire o2,ou are using a obd0 ecu?? there is going to problems there..... it will be fine if you are using obd0 distrib and the right o2

The 3 wire plugs... the one with the red wire in the middle goes to the TPS and the other is map.. should be self explanitory

Like everyone else said thats prolly IAT just find a clip

Your Fanswitch is on the thermostat housing just find a clip that plugs into the one on the motor and your set (the two wires that used to go behind the block by the oil filter)

 

you know that map sensor is from a teg..you dont need the white plug hooked up..take the map sensor out of that mount and use it alone..make more room and looks better..

 

UPDATE:

I went back and i fixed pretty much evertyhing that i had posted here...they were such silly questions, i just overlooked everything as i had started stressing out.


I tried starting the car, it turns over however it won't start. I am thinking it might be because the fuel got dirty because it was sitting over the last 4 months and the tank is almost empty. I will have her filled up tomorrow and give it a go again.

Anyway i plugged in the map, all the sensors are fine, did the clutch cable, the only things that are left are: o2 sensor which i have to extend, and these wires...

Anyone want to tell me what to do with them? Run them straight to the ecu?

 

Also, there aren't two prongs for this plug. When i had the motor out i was looking for them at the back like the old d15 had, but this '93 motor didn't have them.

This is an obd1 motor from a 1993 integra LS...i am running an obd0 distributor and ecu on it.

So that's why i don't think it has the plug for this: