Full-Race or Lovefab
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Full-Race or Lovefab
i am going to be geting a turbo kit soon and i dont know what one to go with what do you think? from what have been seeing cody is good!! but full-race has money and time but i dont know that is y i am asking what do you think?
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Re: Full-Race or Lovefab (03s2kblue)
ok you say Lovefab but why? what do you have? Do you have Lovefab? i need more than one word lol. I know Full Race spends alot of money on research and testing. Thats the most important thing to me if I'm building a good turbo car. not saying that Lovefab dont its that i know Full Race does.
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Re: Full-Race or Lovefab (ryans2000)
I don't have the lovefab yet. but i will have it come spring time....
- the lovefab kit is the most complete of all the kits out there.. comes with an ems, 1000cc injectors, fuel pump, yada yada yada.. the list goes on.....
- with the style of the manifold, there is a wider range of turbos that can be used
- the lovefab kit also has the most ability to upgrade and change things around here and there to your partucular need..(so in the end when you make the purchase it could actually end up being a custom kit). and all this is availible though cody at lovefab....
- cody's kit was made with road track racing in mind (as far as i know and can tell)
- cody's customer service is second to none...
- the lovefab kit is the most complete of all the kits out there.. comes with an ems, 1000cc injectors, fuel pump, yada yada yada.. the list goes on.....
- with the style of the manifold, there is a wider range of turbos that can be used
- the lovefab kit also has the most ability to upgrade and change things around here and there to your partucular need..(so in the end when you make the purchase it could actually end up being a custom kit). and all this is availible though cody at lovefab....
- cody's kit was made with road track racing in mind (as far as i know and can tell)
- cody's customer service is second to none...
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Re: Full-Race or Lovefab (ryans2000)
i haven't completely decided on what turbo i'm going to be going with...
i do plan on doing track days with the car.... so i haven't completely decided....
it's in the air between:
- GT30/37R - good for a little over 500rwhp which will be to much power for track days..(i just want 400-420rwhp max) ... it hits full boost around 4000-4500rpms....
- GT35R - easy to get the 400rwhp mark.... capable of 600rwhp+... which i'm going nowhere near... don't want to build my block and no need for that much power...and hits full boost around 5500rpms...
by the way.. forgot to mention that cody offers both 2mm and 3mm headgaskets...
i do plan on doing track days with the car.... so i haven't completely decided....
it's in the air between:
- GT30/37R - good for a little over 500rwhp which will be to much power for track days..(i just want 400-420rwhp max) ... it hits full boost around 4000-4500rpms....
- GT35R - easy to get the 400rwhp mark.... capable of 600rwhp+... which i'm going nowhere near... don't want to build my block and no need for that much power...and hits full boost around 5500rpms...
by the way.. forgot to mention that cody offers both 2mm and 3mm headgaskets...
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Re: Full-Race or Lovefab (fknfast)
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man haven't you learned.... the guy doesn't want one word answers.... ROFL...
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man haven't you learned.... the guy doesn't want one word answers.... ROFL...
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Re: Full-Race or Lovefab (03s2kblue)
yeah i want right at 400 to 450 hp at wheels i was going to go with full-race but i am thinking of going with lovefab now i like that it comes with 1000cc injectors!! does the kit look good? i like what full race looks like but i am not all about looks!
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Re: Full-Race or Lovefab (03s2kblue)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 03s2kblue »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I don't have the lovefab yet. but i will have it come spring time....
- the lovefab kit is the most complete of all the kits out there.. comes with an ems, 1000cc injectors, fuel pump, yada yada yada.. the list goes on.....
- with the style of the manifold, there is a wider range of turbos that can be used
- the lovefab kit also has the most ability to upgrade and change things around here and there to your partucular need..(so in the end when you make the purchase it could actually end up being a custom kit). and all this is availible though cody at lovefab....
- cody's kit was made with road track racing in mind (as far as i know and can tell)
- cody's customer service is second to none...</TD></TR></TABLE>
not to take away from cody.
but how hard is it to order an ems or injectors?
those are the easy to find parts.
you can use just about any turbo you want with any kit, unless its designed like poo.
you can customize any kit, i dont see what you are gonna wanna change besides perhaps the turbo... maybe intercooler.
id like to know what makes his kit better for road racing?
its really gonna come down to the turbo application when you are going for road racing.
plus you're gonna have to battle heat. with a larger manifold like that.
regardless, there is no such thing as the 'best' kit. one may be better to fit your needs.
some might not have the patience to piece together a kit and would rather buy a complete kit.
some people would rather have the most perfect welds from a robotic welder knowing you'll never have problems.
some might would rather save some cash
some rather would buy from a person who spends most of their time on s2000s
and some might rather buy from engineers who have down the correct research on thermo, fluid dynamics, etc. before making products .
all depends on numerous things
- the lovefab kit is the most complete of all the kits out there.. comes with an ems, 1000cc injectors, fuel pump, yada yada yada.. the list goes on.....
- with the style of the manifold, there is a wider range of turbos that can be used
- the lovefab kit also has the most ability to upgrade and change things around here and there to your partucular need..(so in the end when you make the purchase it could actually end up being a custom kit). and all this is availible though cody at lovefab....
- cody's kit was made with road track racing in mind (as far as i know and can tell)
- cody's customer service is second to none...</TD></TR></TABLE>
not to take away from cody.
but how hard is it to order an ems or injectors?
those are the easy to find parts.
you can use just about any turbo you want with any kit, unless its designed like poo.
you can customize any kit, i dont see what you are gonna wanna change besides perhaps the turbo... maybe intercooler.
id like to know what makes his kit better for road racing?
its really gonna come down to the turbo application when you are going for road racing.
plus you're gonna have to battle heat. with a larger manifold like that.
regardless, there is no such thing as the 'best' kit. one may be better to fit your needs.
some might not have the patience to piece together a kit and would rather buy a complete kit.
some people would rather have the most perfect welds from a robotic welder knowing you'll never have problems.
some might would rather save some cash
some rather would buy from a person who spends most of their time on s2000s
and some might rather buy from engineers who have down the correct research on thermo, fluid dynamics, etc. before making products .
all depends on numerous things
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Re: Full-Race or Lovefab (Mase)
^ i never said the lovefab was the best... it's my opinion that i would chose it over the full race....
i would much rather buy a kit that came with everything in one box then have to order some things here and some things there and other things over there... ...
i would much rather buy a kit that came with everything in one box then have to order some things here and some things there and other things over there... ...
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Why don't you figure out what your goals and needs are. Make a list. Then, research LoveFab, Full Race, Inline Pro, Elda Engineering, A-Spec tuning, Ultimate Racing, and all of the other S2000 turbo kit manufacturers to find out which one most closely meets your needs. Contact one or two of the best matches and have a nice discussion with them. Then, pick YOUR KIT based on YOUR research!
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The GT30R should be able to make 400-450 at the wheels. Mine is fully spooled by 4000 rpm in sixth (probably later in first gear). I started with a log manifold, then upgraded later. I went with a custom tubular top mount setup because nobody on the market made a kit that suited my needs. LoveFab, A-Spec, and Elda were close, but none were exactly what I was looking for. LoveFab's new kit is what I would choose if I was in the market now though. In the end, you have to choose what suits you best.
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FR kit did me REAL good on my hatch. Made unbelieveable power out of a bone stock B16 (325WHP @ 10PSI). Honestly, I was thinking about going with Peak Boost this time. The manifolds are almost exact duplicates of FR. They use 304 SS, they are gaurenteed not to crack, its tubular, and the welds are nice.
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Re: Full-Race or Lovefab (ryans2000)
i have the lovefab set, the quality is top notch. cody even made me a testpipe because i didn't want to run a headerback exhaust.
customer service, craftsmanship, fitment =
customer service, craftsmanship, fitment =
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Re: Full-Race or Lovefab (ryans2000)
Check out InlinePro, our turbo kit is in the fastest S2000 on street tires. it ran a 11.55 @121mph in the NOPI Power street at MIR back in April. Our kits are proven time and time again.
Complete list of kits and dyno graphs are shown on website.
http://inlinepro.com
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Complete list of kits and dyno graphs are shown on website.
http://inlinepro.com
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Re: Full-Race or Lovefab (matkeller)
inline pro comes with a very poor engine management solution. or say lack thereof.
with such high compression, its extremely important to have these engines tuned properly.
not with an FMU
with such high compression, its extremely important to have these engines tuned properly.
not with an FMU
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Re: Full-Race or Lovefab (Mase)
mase'd! hahahhaha
For $5k, inlinepro's kit is pretty tame... add $2k to that and look at the specs explode: SS manifold instead of cast iron, Garrett instead of PT, Tial 44mm instead of TS 38mm, and EMS instead of FMU. worth the extra $2k to me.
For $5k, inlinepro's kit is pretty tame... add $2k to that and look at the specs explode: SS manifold instead of cast iron, Garrett instead of PT, Tial 44mm instead of TS 38mm, and EMS instead of FMU. worth the extra $2k to me.
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Re: (spoon.eg)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by spoon.eg »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">FR kit did me REAL good on my hatch. Made unbelieveable power out of a bone stock B16 (325WHP @ 10PSI). Honestly, I was thinking about going with Peak Boost this time. The manifolds are almost exact duplicates of FR. They use 304 SS, they are gaurenteed not to crack, its tubular, and the welds are nice.</TD></TR></TABLE>
what does a b16 have to do with an s2000? j/k...lol
but seriously does Peak Boost even make a kit for the s2000? I like there stuff too...so far they also have great customer service
what does a b16 have to do with an s2000? j/k...lol
but seriously does Peak Boost even make a kit for the s2000? I like there stuff too...so far they also have great customer service
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what does a b16 have to do with an s2000? j/k...lol
but seriously does Peak Boost even make a kit for the s2000? I like there stuff too...so far they also have great customer service </TD></TR></TABLE>
Me and Ken are working on that together.
what does a b16 have to do with an s2000? j/k...lol
but seriously does Peak Boost even make a kit for the s2000? I like there stuff too...so far they also have great customer service
</TD></TR></TABLE>Me and Ken are working on that together.
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YES SIIRRRR! Quality is good.
YES SIIRRRR! Quality is good.
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Re: (spoon.eg)
lovefab is a awesome kit and comes with alot of the stuff that full-race doesnt have for basically the same price. Both companies have done alot of research even though lovefab doesnt have the money that full race has he has 2 s2k shop cars that he uses to test his product on the dyno and the most important place on the street
both come with great intercoolers, nice piping, exhaust etc
some things with the lovefab kit my not be as nice looking but get the job done just as well
the full race kit will come with everything if you have to move something there will be a braket included to relocate it. everything fits great and i've persoanly got one of the manfiolds and it is just top notch i'll post pics if you are interested in seeing there craftsmen ship
inline pro is also a great kit and if you add in the price of ems etc comes to be about he same as a lovefab. it has proven itself at the track where as the full-race and love fab have not on a s2k yet but i've personal seen both kits in action at the track and both do very well but these were on non s2k's
i saw the 11.5 run made my inline pro on your basic street tires not nitto's bfg's etc so that is impressive in it self
also if you dont go with inline pro they offer a very nice 3mm headgasket which alot of people think is better then the multi layer you can get by cometic which is 2mm. cometic does make the inlinepro one from what i'm told but inline has the pat. on it so the quailty is deff there.
i went with a custom kit myself i've built them before and coming out thousand's less then all the kits you mentioned with what i think is the best of everything so i wont have to upgrade later
full race manifold, inline pro 3mm headgasket etc
all in all you just need to read up and see what will best work for you and how you want your setup to look under the hood
hey ryan if you wait a little longer i'll show you what my s2k can do with the full race manifold
have to come check out some stuff when you get back from school
later man
both come with great intercoolers, nice piping, exhaust etc
some things with the lovefab kit my not be as nice looking but get the job done just as well
the full race kit will come with everything if you have to move something there will be a braket included to relocate it. everything fits great and i've persoanly got one of the manfiolds and it is just top notch i'll post pics if you are interested in seeing there craftsmen ship
inline pro is also a great kit and if you add in the price of ems etc comes to be about he same as a lovefab. it has proven itself at the track where as the full-race and love fab have not on a s2k yet but i've personal seen both kits in action at the track and both do very well but these were on non s2k's
i saw the 11.5 run made my inline pro on your basic street tires not nitto's bfg's etc so that is impressive in it self
also if you dont go with inline pro they offer a very nice 3mm headgasket which alot of people think is better then the multi layer you can get by cometic which is 2mm. cometic does make the inlinepro one from what i'm told but inline has the pat. on it so the quailty is deff there.
i went with a custom kit myself i've built them before and coming out thousand's less then all the kits you mentioned with what i think is the best of everything so i wont have to upgrade later
full race manifold, inline pro 3mm headgasket etc
all in all you just need to read up and see what will best work for you and how you want your setup to look under the hood
hey ryan if you wait a little longer i'll show you what my s2k can do with the full race manifold
have to come check out some stuff when you get back from school
later man