i have an ice box now on my gsr but i hear the aem makes more top end is that true ?

 

maybe like a whole whoppin 1? the difference is really insignificant....there is a difference in sound though

 

oops. i assumed you had the comptech ice box.... which icebox do you have? homemade?

 

no i have a comptech box

 

why did u buy an ice box?????!!! you could have made one out of your exsisting intake box and baffle tubes. the icebox is a joke if you ask me. anyone who'd pay 150.00 bucks for a plastic box when you already have one needs to be

 

why do you say its a joke to spend that much on the ice box? it works just like an aem except it has the filter enclosed in a box with a tube routed to the inside of the fender so that it can suck cold air, and keeps the filter away from any hydrolock mishaps


[Modified by xlr8 si, 12:20 AM 3/16/2002]

 

Why would anyone buy an AEM intake .....you can make your own using piping.......

Just trying to prove my point and saying that both can be made pretty easily, I on the other hand opted to buy my comptech icebox......I'd stick with the icebox, it offers more midrange so you can make up for the whopping 1 extra hp produced by the AEM on the top end. Also, the AEM's start to get annoying after awhile when driving around.


[Modified by reVVin, 3:42 AM 3/16/2002]

 

try emailing BSQ on this board.. he's actually selling a wannabe "icebox" that fits into your stock intake box for like $30-40. functions the same as the comptech unit

 

TRUE!!! Here is a link to my webpage which shows you how do make your own "Icebox"... http://www.geocities.com/bretq/DIY_Icebox_CAI.html . But if you do not want to hassle with collecting all of the necessary parts needed, I now offer it in a convienent, ready to install kit (aka. Icetake CAI). You can go to http://www.geocities.com/bretq/icetake_cai.html . It performs just like the Icebox...but at fraction of the cost.



[Modified by BSQ, 10:05 AM 3/18/2002]

 

Here is a dyno graph comparing the Icebox vs. AEM vs. Injen. The dyno runs were performed on a Type-R (Austin's from the Type-R forum). You will see that the Icebox performs better on the low end and they all are comparable throughout the rest of the RPM range.



Larger image: http://www.imagestation.com/picture/...1.jpg.orig.jpg

 

bsq- did you use pvc piping? uhm......not smart. isn't that stuff supposed to produce killing pollutants or something like that if in an engine bay? just wondering.......i'd say just go buy a $30 intake off of ebay, or make it yourself from piping from JCwhitney. who cares, it's an intake, youre not gonna make THAT much power between all the brands, its what else you have done, and how it works with your setup. if you want to push all your power to the high end ( skunk2mani, ecu, cams, jdm header, test pipe, hi flow exhaust ) then maybe an AEM is more what youre looking for or, but for lower end, maybe a compethc is better. just my two cents.

 

I researched this and PVC does not start "off gasing" until around 250-300 degrees. BTW, if the engine bay area gets anywhere near 250-300 degrees, there will be bigger problems than worrying about the PVC pipe "off gasing" . Also the PVC is not "relatively" close to any heat source and it is always pulling in fresh cool air which keeps the piping cool. I will be performing some temperature test shortly (April-May) and I will be able to give some definitive temperatures in and near the PVC piping.

One last thing. I used my Icetake CAI intake at 2 track events last summer with the temperature between 80-90 and never experienced any problems.


[Modified by BSQ, 10:07 AM 3/18/2002]

 

my point is this, why buy something when you already have it!!!!! your stock filter box works just fine. you just need to do a little remodeling on the baffle tubing. if you didn't look at this before you dropped 150+ on an icebox all i can say is that you wasted your money, you have a thing for material possessions, and you can't think creatively.
the tube that comes off the bottom of the stock air box actual goes up into the pasenger side fender well(far away from the engine bay and in a place where COLD air can be found). if you remove all the other connections(baffle boxes) from that tube you have a cold air box. and i will reiterate this again:

ANYONE WHO SPENDS 150 BUCKS ON A PLASTIC BOX FOR YOUR AIR FILTER WHEN YOU ALREADY HAVE ONE SHOULD BE




[Modified by au-gsr, 10:01 PM 3/16/2002]

 

You can also hack open the resonator box and keep using the stock J-shaped tubing that runs inside the resonator box. The only difference is that it will point toward the back of the car instead of toward the front like BSQ's or Comptechs.

 

there are some people on here that work alot and dont have time for diy projects
**** like that take alot of time

sometimes i prefer to just pay some one to build/engineer it then install it for me

 

well bob then i'll say for the people that work too many hours and pay someone else to do something that would take you ten minutes of research on the web and fifteen minutes of actual work time under the hood, simply has no sense of self accomplishment and needs money to feel a sense of gratitude.

 

gosh. i don't have an icebox, also won't purchase one. i did make my own CAI with teamintegra.net's instruction. got tubing off summit racing. it works but i have no support. i just bought AEM because it has CARB# and i do live in cali. what i'm trying to say is, get whatever that fits you first and save your money. don't listen to other people. both have pros and cons. i'm

 

au-gsr

your a freaking retard seriously

dont say **** that is not true

10 minutes of research; ya right
lets see:
what type of tubing
what temp rating
what fittings?
what angles?
diameter of tubing
does it make power
is it rigged
are you a retard

15 minutes to install
yes, that is a retard statement, im hating you more and more
lets see, it takes me 30 minutes to just re-charge my aem K&N filter

how could i modify the stock intake resonator box, take off fender liner and wheel, build the CAI tube in all under 15 minutes

get the hell of this board if you are going to post useless ****
he asked a question about which makes more power

my answer is to get the bsq cai tube

if you arent a dirty cheap little bitch like you, buy a comptech ice box and have a shop install it for 30 bucks

there is somewhere on this place a post of a pic of a dyno against aem, injen, comptech ice box

test was done on austins car
yes it was done at comptech, but nothing was changed to make higher results wiht the icebox

 

well BOB,

your an idiot
you have no passion for the car you drive
the only tube you know the specs on, is the bong you make love to every night
the only thing u ever learned to RIG was a ***** up your ***
you only seem like an irritating bitch from cailfornia
you are mechanically in-apt, even at beating off

you don't need anything to do the conversion on your stock air intake system, except remove the main baffle box in the passenger wheel well and the last baffle piece(that is white)that leads into the engine bay. BOB might have known this if he had hands on experience.

did you know the only difference, besides size, on a type r intake system is the placement of the baffle tube attached to the bottom of your airbox. its final destination is in the passenger fender well, rather than rerouted into the engine bay like a gsr. check out this website http://members.aol.com/AJahed/mods.html

oh and BOB, get a life!
if you get this ticked off over someone's opinion you probably have premature ejaculation problems. And the info you've given only bears an opinion, but you don't see me ripping you a new vagina, DO YOU, you California *****?!!!



member of the anti bob post **** on honda tech




[Modified by au-gsr, 5:44 AM 3/17/2002]

 

Gee than I wonder were the market for such things comes from, customers you ******* jackass. People buy "Possessions" from companies because they want to. Sure you could build it yourself and have a piece that will not function as well and may very well weigh a lot more, but why. I'll take the icebox.

Anyone who spells bottom with three T's should be

Idiot!

 

so why didnt you answer any of my questions?

Im from california, lets see
i really hate the beautiful weather
the girls here are just a bit good looking

and HEY how did you know about my ejaculation problem?
and hey, i have a little problem with making alot of money. i am succesful at what i do

i have no passion for my car? yeah sure
i am up to meeting you at a road course and kicking your ***

after you bitch and moan, i will be happy to kick your ***
did i mention im 6'1 205 and work out 4 days a week?

your just jealus (sp) cause you dont have any money

get over it jackass



did i mention im sorry for the things i said to you
and i really love you
actually, i live near sf, and im gay. you wana come over and play a lil?
we can fight then have makeup butt sex

 

Not to mention the fact that you spend a lot of time judging people you dont even know. Also you are judging them based on the fact that they bought a single car part, then when Bob points this out to you, you get all self rightous and start your immature name calling (of which I am now taking part in).

You sound like an Idiot to me, I have personally constructed 3 homemade, functional intake systems, I then purchased an AEM because I wanted the nice mandrel bends and the heat resistant powder coating, not to mention the carb number and the proper fitting's, oh I also like having a stock airbox and unmolested silencer in-case I ever want to reinstall it. Also the stock airbox does not work fine on a heavily modified vehicle, my buddy made 11 peak WHP with his AEM on his 98 ITR (this car has significant mods including JUN type-3's). Oh and he had previously modded his J pipe and built a CAI sytem utilizing the Factory airbox.

 

BOB you have serious issues, did i mention that i am 6'2" 195 lbs and i don't have to work out every day to maintain my appearance because i live in the mountains and work outdooors with the ski patrol and forest service year round. lets see how you would handle a 250 acre forest fire. that's my life, does it sound good you cubicle monkey?
oh and the ejaculation thing i found that out from your mom when she told me you were a lowsy lay. probably because you are gay and have an infatuation with other men's asses. oh i found that one out from your dad when he was at the AA class i was teaching. and unfortunately i do have money but would rather spend it on something besides comptech this and aem that. you must be proud to have sunk more money into your car than it was originally worth. my turboed gsr will take your n/a any day and then i'll run over you after you pout and scream about losing with my F3500 diesel, while your in your piece o **** car.unfortunatey i don't think you'll ever get to find out because it seems that you work tooooo much to have a real life. the fact that you are just a cookie cutter california dick doesn't surprise me, i've met and dealt with lots of them.

get over it, take a valium or something.

 

slowerthanu

next time my girlfriend brings here fine lil girlfreinds over that i cant touch, i will be happy to invite slowerthanu over for some drinks

au-gsr if we kiss and make up you can maybe comeover

so, lets see you are to lazy and dumb to get a real job, not just hiking and playing in tents with the other forest rangers?

fighting on the internet
getting more attention from au-gsr
au-gsr saying more intelligent things

real funny about my mom
dude u are pathetic if all you can get is my mom

but, i will have to say my mom is pretty cute though.

 

i don't spend nights in tents with other men, my job required a college education, i work in the field that i've always wanted to. i know you can't say the same for yourself. if it wasn't for the people in my field of work, all the californians who broke a leg on the bunny slope would probably die due to stupidity, and all of the sierra's would have burned down by now.

as far as hangin out with you,slowerthanu, and all of his he-male bitches for a circle jerk, i think i'll pass.