When reading up in the helms on how to set the timing of the crank and the camshafts (I am reassembling the motor that is going into the car in the next few days) I noticed it mentioned removing and reinstalling the crank pulley. In the helms it states you need that special tool in which it holds the nut while your rachet loosens and tightens the bolt. I am wondering;

is this the only way to do it?
Where can I get this tool (if needed)?
Do I really have to remove it to remove the entire timing belt cover and play with timing?

any info would be great as I need to get all the tools tonite to complete the install.

 

Most part stores have them for rent just call ahead of time to make sure, Its called a harmonic dampner pully tool. You can find them online for pretty cheap actually.

And I belive you have to remove the lower cover since the marks are on the pully itself and the block and the cover hides them from you otherwise. Its really not that hard to do if you have that tool. Or a nice Impact gun

 

you need to remove the crank pulley to put a timing belt on.

most of the time you can just hit the crank bolt with an impact gun to get it off.

if your gun isn't strong enough, get the engine to BDC on #1, fill cyl1 with oil, put a sparkplug in it, then use a breaker bar to loosten the bolt.

compression will hold the crank in place.

 

uh...and then what happens to the oil when you are done?

I think I'd rather rent the tool.

 

Most places will loan if for a deposit, otherwise there around $20-30 on the net.

 

Anyone know where I can buy this tool?


I checked Kragen and Pepboys so far and no luck.

 

I wouldnt waste time with the "Specialty tool", get an impact from a friend or buy one. If you plan on doing alot of work yourself an impact will come in very handy. I have never had problems getting a crank pulley off with an impact Good luck!

 

You can buy them from summit racing. They're like $70-$80.

I bought one and use it quite a bit.

You can also buy a chain wrench to hold the pulley. I've done this before and it works good.

 

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ok so you want me to drop hundreds of dollars to get a nice compressor, hoses, impact wrench, the sockets, etc...when I just want this simple tool to remove the pulley for $70? I dont think so.

sure an impact wrench is nice, but there is nothing on a car that you cannot do without an impact wrench. I'd rather spend that money on something else thanks.

however I will ask my friend to borrow his.

Slopoke...know of any place I can drive into and purchase today, the pulley must come off tonight.

 

You can get chain wrenches at Sears or usually any hardware store(they are used for plumbing and stuff).
They look like this:
http://img.ebigchina.com/cdimg...1.jpg.

Just make sure you get one that has a chain thats long enough to go around the crank pulley.

I think they go for $20-$30

 

If you do this make sure you go around the BIGGEST part of the pully and be extremly carefull not to damage the pully with nicks or cuts cause it will destroy any belt you put on it afterwords, aka alternator, PS, AC.

This is actually how I ruined mine, I put it around one of the smaller parts and used a pipe wrench with a 10 ft cheater bar. The boly came lose, along with the inner part of the pully which is actually glue'd toghter so I had twp seperate pieces and I dident notice untill it spun itself apart once I started the motor again. (Took the motor to finally bust it completely)

 

well if I ruin it, I can always run with no PS. Done it before, its not that bad.

 

yeah but its bad for the pump...

just use that chain thing.... its made for this.... the wheels on the chain are long enough to not hurt the pulley

 

You can get that specialy tool alot cheaper from amazon.com. You crankshaft must have the hex indentation in order to use that tool. d15B7 engines do NOT have the hex indentation. I've heard taking out the starter and jamming a huge flathead screwdriver into the flywheel gears will work too. This seems to be the best method so far. Good luck.

 

gonna try the chain wrench. if not, hit it with the impact gun. we'll see how it goes.

 

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That's what I did. I took off the starter. Jammed the pry bar end of the jacks took into the flywheel to keep it from spinning. Used a 2 ft breaker bar with a pipe on the end and it came right off.

 

To those people suggesting to use an impact gun, that is not always the answer. I have an Ingersol Rand gun that does 500 ft/lb in reverse and have come into pulley bolts that won't come off with that. Luckily, I work for a race team and have used our nitrogen guns with the tank regulators set to 250psi. I'd suggest trying the prybar in the flywheel if you don't have compressed air tools. I use that method when changing clutches on our cars. Good luck.

Brandon

 

well I tried an impact gun. no luck. then I tried the chain wrench with a breaker bar and socket. Ended up breaking my rachet.

I guess tonight I will try the impact gun again, or go get a 1/2" breaker bar with 17 socket. Hope it works tonite or I am throwing the whole motor out the window (If I had a window that is).

 

Schley Products 60100 Honda and Acura Harmonic Damper Pulley Holding Tool

Thats the one I bought. Works great.

Here's a couple pictures of how we did it on my friends 94 Accord EX.


Yes, I know, it's a huge cheater bar on the end of the breaker bar. But hey, that damn bolt is on at 181ft/lbs on the Accord. And it's worked great for me a few times now.

 

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Brandon
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i had the same problem, IR 1/2" Titanium impact got owned so i bought the right tool as shown above

 

what a bunch of vaginas....

I just have a buddy jam a screwdriver or two into the flywheel (or course you have to remove the fly inspection cover if its a GSR. ) and then use a breaker bar and loosen the bolt.

Everytime, this is how I do it, unless I already have the air tools/compressor out!!

 

This is how I took mine off w/o an impact gun or any special tools
jack up car and put on spare
lower car
get breaker bar with a long extension (long enough to stick out past the fender)
put the car in 5th gear and wedged a piece of pvc pipe between the seat and brake pedal
and I used a big cheater pipe and put the jack to support the socket since I was using such a long extension

 

I got a real breaker bar no so we'll see how it works tonight.

 

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I've heard of people doing it this way and not having problems but I have heard of a couple horror stories using this method. There was a thread a while ago that someone did this and ended up breaking part of the tranny housing. They also posted pictures showing the damage. Like I said, I know there are people who have done it this way and not had problems but I wouldn't do it because it would be my luck that something would go wrong.

 

get a 2 pound hammer and the 1/2 inch rachet and a 17 hit it hard, it takes me five to six swings, just get the car high up and that works for me.
good luck