Damn. Honda's have NO LOW end whatsoever (stock)! If only the low end of my GS-R felt like my top end... I'd be a happy camper...

When I'm city driving, I dont shift pass 4krpm. Its pretty sluggish when I'm in 5th gear going 40mph.

When I'm racing, I obviously only stay in the Top End, but when I'm city driving, I cant always stay in VTEC! Any one else feel this way?

 

werd...

 

Welcome to the torqueless Honda world.

 

yeah i find that too, especially when the engine is cold, its a little sluggish, but i dont really mind as i know that a quick downshift and a heavy right foot do wonders for the engine. IMO most cars even turbo'd cars are sluggish at 40mph in 5th, but my integra has way more pull in 5th than 90% of other cars over here on the roads

 

yea, but just think... you have something to look forward to after you gsr! ( wait, there's something better?! did someone say m3? ) !

 

40 in fifth?!!! no wonder you feel like your car is a slug. i would not even put my car into fifth until i was up to 60 at least. just drive your car.

 

thas true. A downshift would solve that problem quick...

 

Get a lower final drive (98 JDM ITR or ATS) and a lighter flywheel. It'll solve your problem quite nicely.

Even with just a 9lb flywheel and stock 4.400 FD ('95 GS-R), my car feels a lot quicker in teh lower rpm's.

 

just buy a new 02 CRV! Nice low end, NO top end!

 

or drive around a 1986 corolla for a year
140nm at 6800rpm.
yeah baby.

the honda will feel like a torque monster after that :D

 

Luckily all, and I mean ALL, of Honda racing is done on the top end. Most people when dragging slip at 3,000 rpm or higher and then never fall out of VTEC. Low end torque is useless on the strip.

 

Low-end torque is not useless for the other 99.99% of your driving though. Torque is a wonderful thing. Most Hondas have very little in the whole scheme of things.

 

i feel the same way, if i dont launch at around 3,000 it has real bad low end, but if i do launch at 3,000 my car feels like a rocket....

 

4 bangers.....what do you expect.

 

WITH A QUAIFE LIMITED SLIP YOU CAN LAUNCH RIGHT AT VTEC, WITHOUT PROBABLY RIGHT UNDER IT. I LOVE TOOLAUNCH OFF AT AROUND 4000-4500, IT JUST DEPENDS WHAT U R UP AGAINST.

 

Tell us about your quaife....

 

You know i disagree, my car feels way torquier than I expected it would. I knew it had 128lb/ft at 6k and my old car (96 BMW 328is) had 207lb/ft at 4k so i expected to really miss the torque. Sure, it isn't as much but it feels like way more than the numbers say.

I even find myself pushing the throttle 1/2 way in 4th at about 40mph just to feel a tiny pull of torque on my way to work in the morning. Of course on the way home it's more like full throttle in 3rd to hear the intake wailing.

These cars are fun. Torque is overrated. It's nice to have to rely on revs a bit, makes life challenging.

 

The Quaife Differential powers both drive wheels under nearly all conditions, instead of just one. With an ordinary open differential, standard on most cars, a lot of precious power is wasted during wheelspin under acceleration. This happens because the open differential shifts power to the wheel with less grip (along the path of least resistance). The Quaife, however, does just the opposite. It senses which wheel has the better grip, and biases the power to that wheel. It does this smoothly and constantly, and without ever completely removing power from the other wheel.

In drag-race style, straight-line acceleration runs, this results in a close to ideal 50/50 power split to both drive wheels, resulting in essentially twice the grip of an ordinary differential (they don't call open diffs "peglegs" for nothing).

In cornering, while accelerating out of a turn, the Quaife biases power to the outside wheel, reducing inside-wheel spin. This allows the driver to begin accelerating earlier, exiting the corner at a higher speed.

The Quaife also controls loss of traction when the front wheels are on slippery surfaces such as ice and snow or mud, providing the appropriate biased traction needed to overcome these adverse conditions. The Quaife Differential provides constant and infinitely variable drive. Power is transferred automatically without the use of normal friction pads or plates seen in other limited-slip designs.

The Quaife's unique design offers maximum traction, improves handling and steering, and puts the power where it is needed most. A definite advantage whether on the track or on the street.

The Quaife is extremely strong and durable and since the Quaife is gear operated, it has no plates or clutches that can wear out and need costly replacement.

The Quaife is great for street driving or racing. Racers don't have to put up with locking mechanisms or spools that tear the steering wheel out of their hands when cornering. Because it behaves like an open differential during ordinary driving, street drivers will have trouble telling it's there until pushing the car's limits.

Every Quaife ATB Differential comes with something else other's don't have:
a Limited Lifetime Warranty. This warranty applies even when raced !

only about 1600.00 bought and installed but well worth it.

 

man i'm sorry, i didn't realize the 'caps' police monitered this site!

 

i had a low end problem once try to replace your o 2 sensor it may help use only dealer o2.

 

are you talking about the O2 sensors in your exhaust system? specifically the one/s in the cat? depending on which model and year you may have either one or two right? I wonder if that would bring back a bit of my bottom end power... I miss it

 

Well, no, Hondas are not torque monsters. Torque is a wonderful thing, this is also true. I think most people (if they're like me) don't mind too much 'cos they like to rev the **** out of the engine anyway.

But to agree with a few previous posts, don't shift too early. Unless you're just cruisin'.

Or get a JRSC!