I have a 1999 honda accord. Im looking to get enough out of it to beat my buddies Z28 and another buddies 2004 GT. so far my mods to the engine consist of
Engine:
Slightly shaved (plained) cylinder head by Dykes
K&N air filter with an Aerospeed aluminum intake tube
APC 9.3 mm blue spark plug wires
AEM adjustable timing gear
OBX Power Pullies for alternator and power steering
NGK Iridium spark plugs
Exide Battery
Blue silicon hose kit
OBX throttle body spacer kit
Throttle body coolant bypass
4 gauge ground wire kit
OBX-R stainless steel headers
OBX-R stainless steel full cat-back exhaust system with dual mufflers
Fields Boxer Series V-AFC vtec and air/fuel controller
Gold positive and negative battery terminals


Im looking for any ideas. I have money in my pocket and im willing to spend but on some good qaulity. Anybody know where i should look or who i should talk to?

 

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/403758 here is my car...

 

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I have a 1999 honda accord.

... to beat my buddies Z28 and another buddies 2004 GT.

K&N air filter with an Aerospeed aluminum intake tube
AEM adjustable timing gear
OBX Power Pullies for alternator and power steering
OBX throttle body spacer kit
Throttle body coolant bypass
OBX-R stainless steel headers
OBX-R stainless steel full cat-back exhaust system with dual mufflers
Fields Boxer Series V-AFC vtec and air/fuel controller


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Dude you're making me laugh my freakin' butt off. You need to drop a few more thousand into your car before you can compare to a domestic sports car. Do you have the 4 banger or V6? God help you if ur trying to do this on a 4 banger.

You do know that you're up against a 5.7L V8 and a 4.6L SOHC V8 with 260 horsepower. Not to mention are their cars modified?
I'm sorry dude but to compare your car to theirs is like trying to win a race between apples and oranges.

 

You just spent a lot of money, for what? All that crap doesn't amount to a hill of beans. The Honda Accord is not, I repeat, not a sports car. Even if it has a V6.

 

my car does not compete with theirs at this moment. Im looking to compete with them in the future... Like i said i have money. if you want to get technical, the Z28 was mine, so ik what it has, about 360 whp. im looking to do this with a 4 cylinder yes. There is a kid who is pushing 500 whp with a civic with the same engine about an hour away. he wont tell anyone how he is doing it. i want to know parts andc places to do research in and its nothing to do till spring. so laugh it up all im doing is opening my options and checking to see what is possible...

 

Turbo, pistons, rods, sleevs, AEM EMS and head work will get you there............but that's a ton load of money.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jkelly323 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">my car does not compete with theirs at this moment. Im looking to compete with them in the future... Like i said i have money. if you want to get technical, the Z28 was mine, so ik what it has, about 360 whp. im looking to do this with a 4 cylinder yes. There is a kid who is pushing 500 whp with a civic with the same engine about an hour away. he wont tell anyone how he is doing it. i want to know parts andc places to do research in and its nothing to do till spring. so laugh it up all im doing is opening my options and checking to see what is possible...</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'll be blunt with you: if you can pull it off kicking your old Z28's *** with that 4 banger, then I'll give you massive props for making a smaller, less powerful motor put out enough to kick a Z28's ***. But other than that... no way...

 

my friend has a SR20DET he ordered from japan out of a 180SX clip. He whooped up on me with 600 crank hp. enjuku racing built it for him and its in a 240SX, he threw on a right hand drive conversion kit and it is nuts. I have seen it done but i do not know parts. I am here to gain knowledge and information to make my car better, not to sign on and read discouraging remarks. When it comes down to it i have my CBR 1000RR that can whoop up on any car around here so im just looking to see if there are ways to improve my car. Its my first car besides the camaro, i have only owned trucks. I have a 95 dodge dakota bagged with 20's and a 360 on the way. Im also going to throw on a supercharger within a year or two. I have plenty of toys i just have never owned a import so please help me with tips. Thanks

 

mayb turbo and catless turbo back

 

Let me be honest with you.

There is no way you'll be able to beat those cars in a straight line without some type of forced induction, or a swap.

In the twisties is a different story.

 

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I'll be blunt with you: if you can pull it off kicking your old Z28's *** with that 4 banger, then I'll give you massive props for making a smaller, less powerful motor put out enough to kick a Z28's ***. But other than that... no way...</TD></TR></TABLE>

It can be done with:

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knucklehead, there are TONS of turbo 4 cylinders out there that are completely whooping V8's asses. Don't make it sound like it's not possible.

 

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knucklehead, there are TONS of turbo 4 cylinders out there that are completely whooping V8's asses. Don't make it sound like it's not possible.</TD></TR></TABLE>

And I quote:
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You need to drop a few more thousand into your car before you can compare to a domestic sports car.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Never said it wasn't possible... I think if you can kick a V8's *** with a 4 banger, it's great! Like I said:

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I'll be blunt with you: if you can pull it off kicking your old Z28's *** with that 4 banger, then I'll give you massive props for making a smaller, less powerful motor put out enough to kick a Z28's ***. But other than that... no way...</TD></TR></TABLE>

But you put the same kind of modifications to a 4 banger to kick a V8's ***, stick those types of mods on the V8... it's gone...

sorry, the Honda Accord is no race car/sports car and was never meant to be one.

 

you would be better off supercharging an accord V6..............with the 7th gen cars 300HP should come easily with a SuperCharger 6th gen cars get about 240hp with a SC.....ever thought about acura 3.5L swap?

 

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He has the 4 cyl.

 

well if you wanted to beat a v8 basically, msd ignition, either fully build the f23 or swap a h22 in it and fully build that. f23 has more compession fully built and is the same price as just buying a h22. the h22 is more boost friendly. it has been done b4

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hypnoticf23 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well if you wanted to beat a v8 basically, msd ignition, either fully build the f23 or swap a h22 in it and fully build that. f23 has more compession fully built and is the same price as just buying a h22. the h22 is more boost friendly. it has been done b4 </TD></TR></TABLE>

Its the complete opposite. The f23 only has about 9:1 compression. the h22 is higher I imagine. If you're going to go NA you want the high compression for hp, forced induction prefers lower compression, that way you have more room for error in tuning

 

read the first part of what I said..

"you would be better off"

I would not try to get a 4cyl built up like that. I would sell the car and go V6 accord instead. ALso I believe for the 6th gens the V6 can in swapped in since the engine bays are identical for both cars unlike the 5th gen cars...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hypnoticf23 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well if you wanted to beat a v8 basically, msd ignition, either fully build the f23 or swap a h22 in it and fully build that. f23 has more compession fully built and is the same price as just buying a h22. the h22 is more boost friendly. it has been done b4 </TD></TR></TABLE>

Oh man, where to start...

MSD ignition isn't necessary.

If you are going to do a complete build on an engine, you choose what compression to run. It doesn't automatically come with a certain compression. F23 stock compression is 9.3:1, H22 stock is 10:1.

An H22 is NOT more boost friendly.

 

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Oh man, where to start...

MSD ignition isn't necessary.

If you are going to do a complete build on an engine, you choose what compression to run. It doesn't automatically come with a certain compression. F23 stock compression is 9.3:1, H22 stock is 10:1.

An H22 is NOT more boost friendly. </TD></TR></TABLE>

well said

 

turbo end of story, small shot of n2o wudn't hurt either

 

buy some slicks and slap a 200 shot of nitrous and run for pinks..

seriously, you said the camaro was pushin 360 hp at the wheels..mean its into the 4's at the flywheels, which with good tires.. shoudl put him deeep into the 12's.. hell, ive seen SS camaro's go 12's w/nothing but a good driver and slicks.

i'd leave your old 'maro alone and play w/the mustang. he's only gonna be a mid to high 13 at the very best.

and, if you dont go w/a turbo, you might as well hang it up or face the fact that your buddies are going to continue laughing at you when they beat you... but hey, if you DO drop the $$$ to beat them.. hey, it'll all be worth it right?