http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10387050/

At least some msnbc dolts think so. Outside of depreciation for the newer models and things like clutch and tires, I can't think of a hugely expensive aspect of NSX ownership. Maybe I'm missing something.

 

I thought the NSX was cheap in maintenance when compared to the other vehicles listed. Did they set a cap of 100k for their survey?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ponyboy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Maybe I'm missing something.
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Do you do all your maintenace?

I found a lot of places will try to stroke you because you own an NSX. Even the dealerships around my area.

I do all the work myself it's faily easy. Doing the clutch sucked though.

 

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Do you do all your maintenace?</TD></TR></TABLE>

No way. Though I did install my brakes, suspension, exhaust, etc, the majority of the work is done by my mechanic. I consider myself, and the other NSXers in the area, to be very blessed with his expertise, skill, and honesty. Not to mention, he charges $50 an hour and I don't have the time to learn how to do this stuff.

Now, back to playing Ages of Empires!

 

Most Acura dealerships do charge more for a NSX so its not uncommon. Some of the stuff does take longer on the car though.

You know Ages of Empires is old, oh wait so is Shawn


Modified by Nishant at 12:09 PM 12/12/2005

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ponyboy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10387050/

At least some msnbc dolts think so. Outside of depreciation for the newer models and things like clutch and tires, I can't think of a hugely expensive aspect of NSX ownership. Maybe I'm missing something.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Unless ponyboy is the owner!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Nishant &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
You know Ages of Empires is old, oh wait so is Sean </TD></TR></TABLE>

the new one is out..

 

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i know, just wanted to make Shawn feel old

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ak &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Unless ponyboy is the owner! </TD></TR></TABLE>

Hahafrickinhaha. Very funny.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Nishant &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You know Ages of Empires is old, oh wait so is Shawn</TD></TR></TABLE>

I bought the new one and have played it 5 times total! My four year old's tea parties ownz me. Old is relative.

 

mine has been okay its just like a normal honda but man when things break it costs

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cwood1388 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">mine has been okay its just like a normal honda but man when things break it costs</TD></TR></TABLE>

only reason i do not own one right now

 

Note that the main article says:

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Forbes &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Only high-flying luxury cars and sport utilities appear on this ranking of the 10 most expensive vehicles to own because their depreciation is so great.</TD></TR></TABLE>

So what they are really saying is, Expensive cars are more expensive to own because they're more expensive to buy. Duh!

They reiterate that this is the main reason the NSX qualifies for the list:

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Forbes &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The NSX's $89,000 price tag gives the sports car the high depreciation that, more than anything, makes ownership expensive.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Here's what they ignore: (a) Most NSXs don't sell for list price. (b) They look at the cost of depreciation, rather than the percentage of the purchase price (which is actually better for the NSX than for most other cars). I also wouldn't be surprised if they were getting their depreciation figures from Kelly Blue Book or Edmunds, which are both notoriously inaccurate when it comes to the NSX (and other low-volume cars). In fact, I'm surprised they even considered listing the NSX, when they also say:

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Forbes &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The list does not include super exotic cars that sell in small numbers.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Incidentally, if you're looking at depreciation as a component of ownership cost, few cars on the planet are as much of a bargain as an early NSX.

Back to Forbes. Their ignorance becomes DREADFULLY apparent when they say:

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chris F &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Beyond depreciation, the NSX also demands relatively high amounts for maintenance and insurance.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Scheduled maintenance is not all that expensive, and in fact is similar in cost to cars costing much less than the NSX. The cost of some parts is more for the NSX than for other cars, but they tend to be parts that are part of repair costs on older cars (e.g. clutch, air conditioning) that probably wouldn't be repaired on newer cars.

Insurance, too, is similar in cost to cars costing much less than the NSX. I pay more to insure my Integra than my NSX.

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Not true. In fact, I've never heard of any of the ten dealerships in my area charging more for servicing an NSX than for other cars.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Note that the main article says:
Not true. In fact, I've never heard of any of the ten dealerships in my area charging more for servicing an NSX than for other cars.
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I think this depends on your area and your delearship. There are two in my area, the one closest to me charges more for the NSX. This is Ron Tonkin Acura. The other is Acura of Portland and I have not priced there rates. They have a very respectable service manager there. I was able to borrow the clutch alignment tool when I did my clutch.

 

There are 3 Acura dealerships in my area. All 3 charge more for working on the NSX. Oil changes and other fluid changes costs a significant amount more. I only remember this from seeing the price sheets and comparing them to my R. While this may not be the case in all areas, it is in mine.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chris F &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">There are 3 Acura dealerships in my area. All 3 charge more for working on the NSX. Oil changes and other fluid changes costs a significant amount more. I only remember this from seeing the price sheets and comparing them to my R. While this may not be the case in all areas, it is in mine.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Nishant, just because the price of a particular service costs more for one car than another, doesn't mean that a dealership charges more for working on the NSX. Actual service prices may differ from other cars because of the cost of parts, the amount of fluids, and the amount of labor. However, all of the ten dealerships in my area charge the same hourly rate for mechanics to work on the NSX as on other cars. For example, the NSX oil change is usually more expensive than the ITR oil change for two reasons: (a) the oil filter is more expensive ($15.65 list for the NSX), and (b) it requires more oil (5.3 quarts vs 4.2). The ten dealers in my area charge the same amount for the labor portion of an oil change, even though the total price is different.

 

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Nishant, just because the price of a particular service costs more for one car than another, doesn't mean that a dealership charges more for working on the NSX. Actual service prices may differ from other cars because of the cost of parts, the amount of fluids, and the amount of labor. However, all of the ten dealerships in my area charge the same hourly rate for mechanics to work on the NSX as on other cars. For example, the NSX oil change is usually more expensive than the ITR oil change for two reasons: (a) the oil filter is more expensive ($15.65 list for the NSX), and (b) it requires more oil (5.3 quarts vs 4.2). The ten dealers in my area charge the same amount for the labor portion of an oil change, even though the total price is different.
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I understood that earlier. I forgot to state that in my previous statement. I fully understand that NSX parts are a lil more expensive and thats why their service is more. What i forgot to put is that the hourly charge is more at each dealership for a NSX vs any other acura. Its typically $80 an hr for any car, $100 for a NSX. This I know for a fact at 2 of 3 dealerships i mentioned. I can go to the 3rd one but there isn't a point for me.

 

I'm not doubting that there may be a few dealers who do that, in various locations. But most of them don't. Not just most of them in the Chicago area, but also most of them elsewhere too, especially in large metro areas that have a lot of dealers/people.

Maybe those in a few small markets with only 1-3 dealers do so, thinking they can get away with it for lack of competition...

 

Thats prob the problem in my area. In a 50-60 mile radius, we only have 2 dealerships. Also the area I live in has many upper class people (majority of area is middle though), which is the reason I think they do it. The people will pay so they are charging them.

I am sure the dealership thats in the city about 70-75 miles away charges the normal rate since they are more a metro type.

 

This really scares me, because I am looking to buy a NSX and I currently own a 97 3000GT VR4 and I had lots of headaches with it. I don't mind paying for normal stuff like clutch, tires, brakes etc. etc. But the vr4 keeps breaking down every other month, either axles, bunch of little stuff that keep going wrong with it. Like a clutch on my car is $700, how much would it be on a NSX?? What all goes wrong with NSX's that are pretty common? Like on the 3000GT it's pretty common for the syncros to go out, or for the earlier years the Transfer Case bust on you when you do bunch of 6k rpm drops .


Thanks for the help


Mahdi

 

Don't feel bad. KBB does the same thing to Supra's and RX-7's. Undervaluing them I mean.

And Sean, BF2 &gt; AOE.

 

knightie, isn't his name spelled shawn?

 

check the FAQ.

 

No respect, I tell you. No respect.

 

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His name could be Englebert Humperdink and that still doesn't give you any reason to call me knightie.

Shawn, Sean, Shaun, Shon, whatever.

Casey is Casey.

I am going to name mu child: Wefnarvn[qrngqrnpvorivmrijgcq and we'll call him Ryan.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Knightsport &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">His name could be Englebert Humperdink and that still doesn't give you any reason to call me knightie.

Shawn, Sean, Shaun, Shon, whatever.

Casey is Casey.

I am going to name mu child: Wefnarvn[qrngqrnpvorivmrijgcq and we'll call him Ryan. </TD></TR></TABLE>

So you and Shown are adopting together?