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Old Dec 9, 2005 | 06:09 PM
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I just recently got another motor--d15b vtec, and I was wondering if it is safe to run full synthetic oil without any leaking of sorts from now on out.
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Old Dec 9, 2005 | 06:16 PM
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save your money and go to walmart to buy oil. get mobil 5w30, its 1.82 a quart. that is factory honda fill equiv. if honda needed synthetic, they would have filled the engine with it.
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Old Dec 9, 2005 | 06:18 PM
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yes it is safe.
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Old Dec 9, 2005 | 06:20 PM
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thanks
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Old Dec 9, 2005 | 07:56 PM
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naw man, Honda uses Castrol GTX for all there cars cept like the S2000 and NSX.
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Old Dec 9, 2005 | 07:59 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Redline96LX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">naw man, Honda uses Castrol GTX for all there cars cept like the S2000 and NSX.</TD></TR></TABLE>

umm what are you talking about?

i run royal purple synthetic in my JDM h22 and it never leaked oil, it probably has about 80k on it??
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Old Dec 9, 2005 | 08:02 PM
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I use mobil full syntheic in all my cars no matter the mileage. if it is brand new I would brake it in and start using syntheic about 5,00 miles.
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Old Dec 9, 2005 | 08:04 PM
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well the motor is from JDM land and of course is used with an unknown amount of mileage.
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Old Dec 9, 2005 | 08:08 PM
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Amsoil ASL oil with Amsoil Ea Nanofiber Oil Filter
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Old Dec 9, 2005 | 08:12 PM
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So in other words, I'm safe to use synthetic without concerns of oil leaking.

I don't want to turn this thread into "what oil is better", etc.
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Old Dec 9, 2005 | 08:14 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EGmikeH22 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

umm what are you talking about?

i run royal purple synthetic in my JDM h22 and it never leaked oil, it probably has about 80k on it??</TD></TR></TABLE>

He's saying HONDA uses Castrol GTX, why even ask that question. Never did he mention any other sythetic or other oil.

I've "heard" not to bother using synthetic on older engines, that it was basically a waste in the extra money for an engine suited for run of the mill oil.
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Old Dec 9, 2005 | 08:39 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CLERIC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">He's saying HONDA uses Castrol GTX, why even ask that question. Never did he mention any other sythetic or other oil. </TD></TR></TABLE>

i've got video of the lead engineer of the type-R division saying otherwise.

i was saying that he was wrong, not answering any question he was asking.
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Old Dec 9, 2005 | 08:46 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Redline96LX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">naw man, Honda uses Castrol GTX for all there cars cept like the S2000 and NSX.</TD></TR></TABLE>

you are joking right? Or you don't know jack about what you are talking about. Have you ever looked on the labels of the honda oil bottles? MOBIL.


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by littleredcivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">save your money and go to walmart to buy oil. get mobil 5w30, its 1.82 a quart. that is factory honda fill equiv. if honda needed synthetic, they would have filled the engine with it.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Dec 9, 2005 | 08:57 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SuperSlow &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you are joking right? Or you don't know jack about what you are talking about. Have you ever looked on the labels of the honda oil bottles? MOBIL.
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I think this is the first not misinformation i've read tonight in civic, prelude, or GDD.

Is there something going on? I've had like 8 posts with crap like this.

SuperSlow thank you for not being retarded!
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Old Dec 9, 2005 | 11:32 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SuperSlow &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

you are joking right? Or you don't know jack about what you are talking about. Have you ever looked on the labels of the honda oil bottles? MOBIL.

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no doubt. Go Honda OEM oil...it's made by Mobil to Hondas specs...really good stuff
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Old Dec 9, 2005 | 11:54 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by littleredcivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">save your money and go to walmart to buy oil. get mobil 5w30, its 1.82 a quart. that is factory honda fill equiv. if honda needed synthetic, they would have filled the engine with it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

expletive Walmart.
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Old Dec 10, 2005 | 12:15 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Cuong-nutz &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I just recently got another motor--d15b vtec, and I was wondering if it is safe to run full synthetic oil without any leaking of sorts from now on out.</TD></TR></TABLE>

you shouldn't have a problem running synthetic on a newer motor. You might on an older motor because the petroleum lines may loosen up and cause your engine to leak. When i say old, i mean like 300k miles old. I run castrol high mileage 5w30 on my d15b7. no leaks, no burning. for the other high mileage guys out there
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Old Dec 10, 2005 | 12:23 AM
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Well, some honda dealership uses Castrol, took my gf's accord 03 to a honda dealership in lousiana and they used castrol oil in her car

i do know, if you buy bottles from honda, they're mobil oil
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Old Dec 10, 2005 | 06:48 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Nuke209 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well, some honda dealership uses Castrol, took my gf's accord 03 to a honda dealership in lousiana and they used castrol oil in her car

i do know, if you buy bottles from honda, they're mobil oil</TD></TR></TABLE>

I can vouch for that. Honda's in Sacramento use Castrol.

I dont mean to jack the thread but why would it EVER be unsafe to run synthetic oil? How would synthetic cause oil leaks?
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Old Dec 10, 2005 | 08:03 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FuNkDrSpOt &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I can vouch for that. Honda's in Sacramento use Castrol.

I dont mean to jack the thread but why would it EVER be unsafe to run synthetic oil? How would synthetic cause oil leaks?</TD></TR></TABLE>
essentially, fully synthetics have in the past been known to exacerbate existing potential leaks in higher mileage engines simply because of the detergent-like qualities of the synthetic oil washing out buildups that were preventing the leaks.

If you have a healthy engine, it should not be a problem to run fully synthetic.
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Old Dec 10, 2005 | 02:22 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FuNkDrSpOt &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I can vouch for that. Honda's in Sacramento use Castrol.

I dont mean to jack the thread but why would it EVER be unsafe to run synthetic oil? How would synthetic cause oil leaks?</TD></TR></TABLE>

the particles in synthetic oil are smaller, so they can fit through smaller cracks / openings / bad o-rings / bad seals than organic oil.

same with tranny fluid, if i put royal purple tranny fluid in my m2b4, it just flows out the bottom in a few days.

stock honda fluid never leaks ever.
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Old Dec 10, 2005 | 04:15 PM
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no it is not safe to run synthetic oil on a new motor. it will take forever to seat parts correctly. the only time you should ever run synthetic on a new engine is if the factory advises.
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Old Dec 10, 2005 | 05:48 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by postman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">no it is not safe to run synthetic oil on a new motor. it will take forever to seat parts correctly. the only time you should ever run synthetic on a new engine is if the factory advises.</TD></TR></TABLE>

What? How in the hell does synthetic oil not seat parts correctly?! Can anyone verify this, this sounds wrong
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Old Dec 11, 2005 | 12:00 PM
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im not saying it will happen, but you do run a higher chance. the additives in the oil are diff. than regular oil. the viscosity of the two are somewhat diff. its kind of hard to explain.
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Old Feb 11, 2006 | 12:07 PM
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If you go to ExxonMobil's website they say that you CAN use synthetic oil on a new motor. They also state that the cars that call for Mobil 1 (Corvette, 911--I am sure there are others) actually have Mobil 1 in their crankcase from the factory--before they are ever ran. Traditional thinking says not to switch to synthetic until you have at least 500 miles on the motor, but I am starting not to believe that anymore....
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