hey guys im new to the forums, i have had 2 cars and have had a 93 civic 2 door soch vtech and im selling my other car and i will have all of that money to put into this car, i only need one car to get to work and back, and i want to be a ripper, i know the basics on these cars and my friend refered me to a shop here in town, BnT in wilmingotn, and i was going to see what honda owners say about this, will it fit or no, some one told me to do it and put a b16 head on ti to make the compression ratio go up and turbo it, but im not sure if i want to go all thru that, i want to build a b18c1(if possible) w. turbo and throw it in, now i know i will have to upgrade pretty much every moving part on the car, but my question is will it fit?. Thanks.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by scca ready &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">will it fit or no</TD></TR></TABLE>Yes it will fit. The same thing as a GSR into a hatch or 4dr.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by scca ready &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">some one told me to do it and put a b16 head on ti to make the compression ratio go up and turbo it</TD></TR></TABLE>Someone is a retard. The GSR has a 10:1 compression ratio stock. That is a little high for me if I am considering a turbo. However a B18B1 has a 9.2 compression ratio that is a little bit more comfortable for f/i. And, as far as I know, putting a b16 head on it won't rais the c/r. I may be wrong though.

-Red

 

not sure if it will fit striaght in or need a few minor mods. but i do know this, if you are talking about turboing it. i would not recomend looking at a b18c1. they are hard to find and not cheap at all. if you are planning on replaceing the internals and putting a turbo on it i would go with something like a d16z6. you will spend WAY less and unless you are planning on track raceing i dont think the general street driver will feel much diff with between finished products. if you were just dropping a stock one in then i could see the b18c1 being worth it.

 

is the d16z6 doch vtech. im still learning about motors, but i knwo b series. but yes im looking for a motor to turbo and race. i just thought the b18c1 would be nice, but thats all i know

 

Check this site for info on different motors and their specs

http://www.streettuners.com/cu...tegra

Hope that helps you make a decision.

-Red

 

The B18C1 is out of a GSR integra and is pretty much a bolt in affair if you get every thing for a swap, ecu, axels, tranny, shift linkage ect. They are a great motor but a little spendy unless you an get a deal on one.

If you want to build your first turbo car I would either stick with the D16Z6 (which is SOHC vtec) or go with an LS motor B18b (which is DOHC non vtec) Both are great motors turbo'd with the added bennifit of being able to pick a new block up for dirt cheep if you blow the one you have $150-$500

Here is a big thread all about turbo LS setups: https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1323059

I say play with the D16 and turbo that for now since you already have it. then later on you can swap in a B series and pretty much all you will have to do is get a different turbo mannifold and a bigger turbo if you want.

It sounds like you still have a ton of research left to do and Honda-tech is great for any thing you want to know about Hondas. A good place to research turbo setups is Homemadeturbo.com Tons of D and B series turbo writeups and projects, parts lists ect.

 

i have enough to do what i want with a b18c1 motor, but im looking to have around 350-400 whp, i know its a high goal but its what i want, the c1 has more stock hp that i dont have to gain on the engine i have now. and with building the motor it will withstand higher boost. please tell me wrong if im out in la la land, but its a work in progess and im learning a lot and you guys are real helpful-

-Max

 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by scca ready &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the c1 has more stock hp that i dont have to gain on the engine i have now. and with building the motor it will withstand higher boost.</TD></TR></TABLE>The hp that the b18c1 (gsr) makes is due to its 10:1 c/r. If you plan on replacing the pistons, you will lower the c/r anyway. May as well save a good amount of coin and go with an ls (b18b) if you are set on having a DOHC. However, should you decide to be a SOHC ninja, check out http://www.sohchonda.com .

-Red

 

Oh... don't forget to upgrade your suspension as well. You will lose it in the twisties if you don't.

-Red

 

I just posted that an LS or the D16 would be good because this is going to be your only car.........your asking if the B18c1 will go in a civic then your talking about building a motor??? Thats not going to happen over a weekend and how about tuning? would suck to blow up a $5K motor

All im saying is good luck daily driving a 400hp civic and have it be reliable. Also I really dont think you know what it takes to build one. Start small, learn, then go bigger

 

First I think you should learn grammer

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by G2 Speed &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">First I think you should learn grammEr</TD></TR></TABLE>Dude, like you have any room to talk. Spelling ownz you. His grammAr was good enough for him to get quite a few responses.

-Red

 

so vtech doessent really matter? or is it n the b18b? im all confused now

 

B16 head will lower your compression: the cc volume being higher than gsr head.

And you would not want to raise compression to turbo anyway. So I am not sure if that person's statement is completely wrong or just sort of wrong....




Modified by SuperSlow at 2:33 AM 12/10/2005

 

to answer you question, YES it will fit in your car. and yes you can boost your stock gsr, just your compression will help determine how much you boost, so if its high you'll boost low and if its low you'll boost high. and yes it is possible to boost high compression, i have seen a 11.5 compression LS/VTEC that was boosted make 450whp and run mid 11's and last for about 30k. so in the end don't listen to another hater and you do what you want with your motor, cuz it's your money.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Blk_EJ1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">to answer you question, YES it will fit in your car. and yes you can boost your stock gsr, just your compression will help determine how much you boost, so if its high you'll boost low and if its low you'll boost high. and yes it is possible to boost high compression, i have seen a 11.5 compression LS/VTEC that was boosted make 450whp and run mid 11's and last for about 30k. so in the end don't listen to another hater and you do what you want with your motor, cuz it's your money.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Did you re read this...

I would say if you have the money, get a gs-r and boost it.. No more than 8 pounds on a stock motor.. Just get someone that knows exactly what their doing when tuning your car.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by scca ready &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so vtech doessent really matter? or is it n the b18b? im all confused now</TD></TR></TABLE>Personally, on a turbo build, I don't think vtec is really that important. The b18b is not equipped with vtec, however you can do a head swap, hence the ls/vtec that has been mentioned. This is a non-vtec block mated to a vtec head. But, if you are going to do that, you may as well go for the b20b/vtec. The b20b has a low compression anyway. 8.8:1 if I am not mistaken. Someone correct me if I am wrong. So that will give you a low compression vtec motor displacing 2.0 liters and should have a nice torque curve should you decide to boost. Here is a link to a thread with an all-motor b20/vtec https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1430694 . Hope this helps.

-Red