Ok....I know NOPI is trying to make all the classes full and more exciting to race in and watch and thats all cool and all.........BUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i was just reading the results from the Race at SNOWBIRD raceway in FLORIDA this past weekend and a lot of those cars are running 7.0's all day long.

My question is.. How are you going to make things fair and equal for the 4cylinder cars to race against the 6cylinders and V-8's???? Yeah i know brent went 6.90's but Brent is also leaning real hard on that motor.A lot of the 4cylinder cars/racers can't afford to push their motors that hard to come close to even compete.





This is a car that BOB GLIDDEN drove to win the event. This car is a nitrous fed small block. He also ran a 6.97 with this car the weekend before at the same track during testing.
During the event in competition these are the times he was posting during the event.

6.97 during testing the week before
7.025@ 201.11mph
7.047@196.12mph
7.061@ 191.73mph
Now Please tell me what 4cylinder is gonna be able to keep up with those #'s without hurting the motor everyother pass.

I really like th eidea of this class. i just hope you guys are doing the right thing to keep everything fair for the 4cylinder cars. Someone stated before on here that the 4cylinder cars should have their on class,which right now is really sounding like a good idea.

Please dont push away the 4cylinder RWD racers from your organization.We would still love to race with you.

 

I don't think the Glidden's cars would be eligible to race the class because they run carbs. I think Glen said it was an efi class only. I could be wrong.

 

The car that bob was driving didn't belong to hiom. it is actually owned by a professional golfer that had a tournament and couldn't be there for the event.But to your comment. i'm not sure if the car is carb or EFI,BUT there are other cars in that class that are and are still running 7.0's

 

This is my friends 10.5 outlaw car,hopefully he can race too!!

http://mishami.image.pbase.com...9.jpg

http://mishami.image.pbase.com...A.jpg


Modified by B18c1turboedEK at 1:07 PM 12/8/2005

 

What was the weight on that car??
Was it carburated or F.Inj.??
What was the displacement on the motor??
What size tires was it on??

We need to know all of the variables before we even speculate on a car like that and the 4 cyl. not being able to run with it.

 

Even if they are faster rules can be adjusted to the class to even the playing field. They are in the ball park, so an even class can be achieved! A weight break or a power advantage could easily make the imports run those times. I say let them race and see what happens!

 

I would'nt change anything yet though.

 

Yea, those guys are out of Alaska. As long as they fit in the rules they are allowed. I talked to them at the race in Commerce a couple of weeks ago. Good people, awesome car and nice rig set up.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NDRATECH &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yea, those guys are out of Alaska. As long as they fit in the rules they are allowed. I talked to them at the race in Commerce a couple of weeks ago. Good people, awesome car and nice rig set up.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yea the car stays in AL at his parents house,so he makes alot of Eastcoast events.
I talked to him a few days ago and he plans on running it if a few other 10.5 cars enter.I hope he enters so i can have him tow my car. Did you check out his golf cart? that thing is pimp!!

 

Yea, it had matching twin turbos and paint to the car. Tons of Stereo Equip. also.

Let him know, they are coming, so get ready.

Also, have him contact me. I need to get some info from him

 

I think the 6 cylinders will be ruling the class this year. My good friend just ran in the 6.90's this past week in florida. thats just the beginning of the tuning. lots more to go. Good ole 350z

 

Brent signed on with slowboy, and I know mike huml has no problem paying the bills to make sure Brent’s car and their 1G Rwd will be competitive and go rounds. I would like to see a few more 4Cyl RWD cars. As for the class the outlaw cars will help fill up the fields and I don’t see the top 8 10.5 tire guys show up to every nopi event at least not this year, once it catches on might be a different story. Just like the Power Street class was not as filled last year, I predict it will be packed with DSM’s this year at every event.

 

ok, but how many other 4cylinder cars will be able to run a 6.90 EVERY PASS???

 

yeah thats going to be a tough one. I really don't see that many 4 cylinders which will be able to break the 7 sec barrier.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jamheg1101 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah thats going to be a tough one. I really don't see that many 4 cylinders which will be able to break the 7 sec barrier.</TD></TR></TABLE>

there are alot of 4 cylinders that can break into the 7's....its just the low low low 7's and high 6's is the problem.

I just dont see why th RWD 4 cylinders just don't have their own class. that way the 6 cylinders and Outlaw 10.5 cars can run as fast as they want with out worrying about if they rules will change and they get penalized. And us 4cylinders and rotary cars can battle it out with no problem.

 

does it count if you only use 2 tires
http://www.hpjvids.com/ndacut/LYNCH.mpg

 

is there any turbo size limit or anything in this class or was that NHRA Modified this past year...?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by h22 civic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">does it count if you only use 2 tires
http://www.hpjvids.com/ndacut/LYNCH.mpg</TD></TR></TABLE>

OH ****!!!!! that bitch aint no joke!!!!!

i wonder if he steers that thing like a tractor puller or a WheelStander car with a left and right foorbrakes...lol

OFF DA HOOK FO SHO!!!!!!!!!!!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TyCooley &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">is there any turbo size limit or anything in this class or was that NHRA Modified this past year...?</TD></TR></TABLE>
yeah this class had turbo limits.

6cylinders were allowed to run twin 56mms and 4cylinders with adjustable clutch was allowed to run a 80mm and a 4 cylinder with single disk clutch could run anysize turbo that they could make work.

 

ERRR i meant break past the 7 sec barrier, as in reaching the 6's

 

You got it a little bit backwards bro. The inline 6's were allowed 58mm turbos until they were still running away with the class. They were then allowed twin 52mm turbos, which everyone seemed to think didn't work. Nopi backed away from the 52mm turbo rule and allowed the 58's to be put back in place on the inline 6's. NHRA, however, decided that they would implement and KEEP the 52mm rule in place, and wouldn't back away from that. In Nopi, 4 cylinder cars with clutchless shift transmissions without adjustable clutch were allowed any turbo size they wanted. Cars WITH adjustable clutch and clutchless shift transmissions were allowed a 78mm turbo as a max size. Just an FYI.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by boost_dependent &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You got it a little bit backwards bro. The inline 6's were allowed 58mm turbos until they were still running away with the class. They were then allowed twin 52mm turbos, which everyone seemed to think didn't work. Nopi backed away from the 52mm turbo rule and allowed the 58's to be put back in place on the inline 6's. NHRA, however, decided that they would implement and KEEP the 52mm rule in place, and wouldn't back away from that. In Nopi, 4 cylinder cars with clutchless shift transmissions without adjustable clutch were allowed any turbo size they wanted. Cars WITH adjustable clutch and clutchless shift transmissions were allowed a 78mm turbo as a max size. Just an FYI. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah what you said!!!!