135mph + safety requirements
To all you guys running 135mph+ roughly what have you spent on all your equipment?
As far as I know you need a chute, cage, window net, tranny shield, gloves, neck brace, jacket, sfi clutch and flywheel, steel valve stems and a SFI damper, harness, and NHRA license.
is this correct? Im guessing almost $4000?
As far as I know you need a chute, cage, window net, tranny shield, gloves, neck brace, jacket, sfi clutch and flywheel, steel valve stems and a SFI damper, harness, and NHRA license.
is this correct? Im guessing almost $4000?
I'm not sure on the gloves gloves but you do need pants.
You don't need a chute until you reach 150mph.
I think you need "aftermarket axles", but I don't know what that means... I run OEM axles trapping 140 because I don't want to drop >$1000 for axles
Couple more questions to add to this:
1)does the seat need to be attached to the cage? If so, would that make using stock seats (or any adjustable seat) illegal?
2) Are the swingout bars on the rollcage able to be ceritifed for 9's?
You don't need a chute until you reach 150mph.
I think you need "aftermarket axles", but I don't know what that means... I run OEM axles trapping 140 because I don't want to drop >$1000 for axles
Couple more questions to add to this:
1)does the seat need to be attached to the cage? If so, would that make using stock seats (or any adjustable seat) illegal?
2) Are the swingout bars on the rollcage able to be ceritifed for 9's?
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You don't need a chute until you reach 150mph.
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Rules changed this year, it's 135 now.
You don't need a chute until you reach 150mph.
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Rules changed this year, it's 135 now.
I just re-read the rules and I'm a little confused; you still don't need a chute until 150mph, but if you run 135mph, you need to meed the 9.99 safety6 requirements, and the quick reference chart says that you need a chute for 9.99 and faster....
So, I'm "assuming" that you need a chute if you trap 135, but you don't have to pull it unless you trap 150
So, I'm "assuming" that you need a chute if you trap 135, but you don't have to pull it unless you trap 150
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yay...now NHRA will FORCE my dream to come true...rolling down I-84 with a shute hanging off the back of my car LOL. I can just see it now....I'll pop my shoot from a 65mph roll and I'll still take your *** from a roll. ROFL>
oh no!
oh no!
not a lot of people trap 135+mph... only a very few. And its safe to say that the percentage of cars that trap 135 aren't DD'd EVEN IF THEY ARE CAPABLE of being dd'd.
the chute bracket ties into your cage....which I suppose could be mounted with heim joints(or something of the like) and not welded solid..so that you could remove it.
the chute bracket ties into your cage....which I suppose could be mounted with heim joints(or something of the like) and not welded solid..so that you could remove it.
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Good point; lets get a definite answer on if all 135+mph cars need a chute before everyone starts jumping to conclusions.
The reason why I originally thought that a chute was requred was because of the "quick reference chart" at the bottom of the general class rules (from the NHRA sport compact website, page 136). If you look at the chute item, it just says that is required for 9.99 and faster.
However, if you look at the section 4:8 in the general rules, it states that a chute is required if the class regulations call for it. Looking at the class rules for SFWD, a chute is called out only if the MPH is 150+. It doesn't say anything about 9's.
The quick reference checklist states (at the bottom) that it does not supercede or replace the main NHRA ruleset.... so the only place where it says that a chute is required for 9's is the quick reference sheet. It seems to me we have a little contradiction here perhaps?
I'm starting to think that you really don't need a chute unless you run 150. If you run 9's slower than 150 you probably don't need a chute. However, I would really like someone who knows for sure to verify this. I.E., will the 9-second n/a cars that don't trap 150 all be adding chutes this year? If not, then we have our answer
Good point; lets get a definite answer on if all 135+mph cars need a chute before everyone starts jumping to conclusions.
The reason why I originally thought that a chute was requred was because of the "quick reference chart" at the bottom of the general class rules (from the NHRA sport compact website, page 136). If you look at the chute item, it just says that is required for 9.99 and faster.
However, if you look at the section 4:8 in the general rules, it states that a chute is required if the class regulations call for it. Looking at the class rules for SFWD, a chute is called out only if the MPH is 150+. It doesn't say anything about 9's.
The quick reference checklist states (at the bottom) that it does not supercede or replace the main NHRA ruleset.... so the only place where it says that a chute is required for 9's is the quick reference sheet. It seems to me we have a little contradiction here perhaps?
I'm starting to think that you really don't need a chute unless you run 150. If you run 9's slower than 150 you probably don't need a chute. However, I would really like someone who knows for sure to verify this. I.E., will the 9-second n/a cars that don't trap 150 all be adding chutes this year? If not, then we have our answer
From what I got from NHRA tech down south was that the chute will not be mandatory unless you run in the 150 MPH barrier. They will however enforce the use of it at that point. Whereas NOPI will not enforce the pulling of the chute. For those of us who know, sometimes when you have other things to do, repacking that chute can be a bitch. Other then that I was looking at the breakdown of "ballpark prices." These were for mostly RCI equipment so other companies prices may vary:
SFI 3.2A/5 jacket $150
SFI 3.2A/5 pants $150
SFI 16.1 harness $70-$200
Snell SA-2000 helmet (Nomex lined) $250
Window net $30
Neck brace $30
Twin disk clutch (most likely what you have if you trap 135+) $1200
SFI 4.1 Scatter shield/blamket $150-$250
SFI 18.1 Fluidampr $350
6 point CAGE @$1200 (will depend on fabricator and shop you know) Maybe more with parachute attachment
Parachute runs about $300
So added up on the low sie of the prices that comes out to $3880.00. Plus any shipping and taxes. Not to mention if you want to change your front seats (for NHRA remember they have to match).
Have fun,
Jason
SFI 3.2A/5 jacket $150
SFI 3.2A/5 pants $150
SFI 16.1 harness $70-$200
Snell SA-2000 helmet (Nomex lined) $250
Window net $30
Neck brace $30
Twin disk clutch (most likely what you have if you trap 135+) $1200
SFI 4.1 Scatter shield/blamket $150-$250
SFI 18.1 Fluidampr $350
6 point CAGE @$1200 (will depend on fabricator and shop you know) Maybe more with parachute attachment
Parachute runs about $300
So added up on the low sie of the prices that comes out to $3880.00. Plus any shipping and taxes. Not to mention if you want to change your front seats (for NHRA remember they have to match).
Have fun,
Jason
Now, here's another issue: regarding protective clothing.
See general regulations section 10:10. I'm a little confused (thanks to some akward wording here) as to whether or not 9-second racers need to meet SFI 3.2A/5 or SFI 3.2A/15.
It says that 9.99 and faster with an OEM or steel firewall need to meet SFI 3.2A/5 (jacket, pants). But it also says jsut below that you need to meet SFI 3.2A/15 if you don't have a OEM firewall and you're turbocharged.
Now, does this mean that You need to meet SFI 3.2A/15 for all turbo cars faster than 9.99, or only if you're turbo AND you don't have an OEM firewall?
This is getting pretty steep; I'm having trouble even finding clothing online that meets SFI 3.2A/15
See general regulations section 10:10. I'm a little confused (thanks to some akward wording here) as to whether or not 9-second racers need to meet SFI 3.2A/5 or SFI 3.2A/15.
It says that 9.99 and faster with an OEM or steel firewall need to meet SFI 3.2A/5 (jacket, pants). But it also says jsut below that you need to meet SFI 3.2A/15 if you don't have a OEM firewall and you're turbocharged.
Now, does this mean that You need to meet SFI 3.2A/15 for all turbo cars faster than 9.99, or only if you're turbo AND you don't have an OEM firewall?
This is getting pretty steep; I'm having trouble even finding clothing online that meets SFI 3.2A/15
cmon guys you knew this was going to get expensive .....were ready to step up and i know all of you can too just takes alittle more encouragement,
p.s. if my friend that works at a 8hr job can get his car to compete you guys cann too thats worse than working a mcdonalds 8.25 is what they pay there....
p.s. if my friend that works at a 8hr job can get his car to compete you guys cann too thats worse than working a mcdonalds 8.25 is what they pay there....
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and do these rules apply for like a test and tune at a local track... not an actual event?</TD></TR></TABLE>
This sport isnt cheap. If you can invest 25k into a car to make it 9 sec capable you can spend 1/8th of that to ensure your *** is safe god forbid you crash. It is a small price to pay 3-4k for safety when a cheap funeral goes for 5 grand. Think about it your saving a grand and your neck.
and do these rules apply for like a test and tune at a local track... not an actual event?</TD></TR></TABLE>
This sport isnt cheap. If you can invest 25k into a car to make it 9 sec capable you can spend 1/8th of that to ensure your *** is safe god forbid you crash. It is a small price to pay 3-4k for safety when a cheap funeral goes for 5 grand. Think about it your saving a grand and your neck.
Pro-Am you said 6pt cage, i think you need a 10pt cage for 9.99 car. Also have to pay for the NHRA license as well.
for me who currently only has a basic single-layer jacket, a motorcycle helmet, 6pt cage, the proper sparco harnesses and a fluidamper, there are still alot of things i'd have to get to get into the requirement, which basicly tells me, i won't be able to run next year.
for me who currently only has a basic single-layer jacket, a motorcycle helmet, 6pt cage, the proper sparco harnesses and a fluidamper, there are still alot of things i'd have to get to get into the requirement, which basicly tells me, i won't be able to run next year.
Best price for chutes I found:
http://www.appliedracing.com/pages/_frame.html
Also, get with your local track so you can start making your required passes for your licence. It may take a few races to complete.
OH.. and don't forget about the Physical EXAM!!. Gotta have before your licence passes.... >
http://www.appliedracing.com/pages/_frame.html
Also, get with your local track so you can start making your required passes for your licence. It may take a few races to complete.
OH.. and don't forget about the Physical EXAM!!. Gotta have before your licence passes.... >



