I have got a '96 hatch. This spring I would like to drop a new motor into it. Problem is, I don't really know what motor, there are a few that I am looking at though. So any opinions are helpful...

LS/Vtec
B16A2 or A1
D16Z6
B18C1
D16Y6
H22A with custom mounts, customs axles, and shift linkage ($3,000) H23A ($3,600)

These are the motors that I have "narrowed" it down to, they are relatively cheap, and I plan on FI when I get a new motor. So any opinions will really help, even if you suggest another motor, but I am on a "budget," so I don't want to spend a huge amount of $. Thanks for any help.

 

B18B1 or D16Z6 then boost later on.

LS/VTEC isn't really a setup to do on a "budget"
B16A1/A2 is common and somewhat torqueless, although you'll had mAd 3rd gear VTEC.
H22/H23, kind of pricey but you can do it
B18C1 is ok, but a B18B or D16 can be had much cheaper, plus some boost and you'll be a lot quicker.
What's a D16Y6?

 

B18C1

 

What's a D16Y6?[/QUOTE]

The Y6 is the D15B, V-TEC, rated at 130hp, don't know why I didn't just say that, haha. But it is like $900 or something for the motor itself, with alternator, blah, blah, blah. Thanks for the posts, anyone else?

 

Given the listed options, I'd opt for a B18C1. It's easily the most well rounded motor of those mentioned.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by codyb13 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What's a D16Y6?
The Y6 is the D15B, V-TEC, rated at 130hp, don't know why I didn't just say that, haha. But it is like $900 or something for the motor itself, with alternator, blah, blah, blah. Thanks for the posts, anyone else?
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So if it's a D15B, then how could it be a D16Y6...two different displacement motors? I've searched for D16Y6 and lots of other people don't know what the hell it is either.

The D15B is the JDM version of the D16Z6, slightly more aggressive cam, etc. The stuff you listed.

I'm still confused about the D16Y6 thing. I've heard of D16A6, Z1, B7, Y7, Z6, Y8...but never a Y6.

 

For boost, the LS motor (B18) will give you nice results, so will the D16z6, but for a cheaper price. It depends on your goals. The D16z6 will handle a max of 300 hp with a good tune on stock internals, which is plenty of hp. Another benefit, if you blow it up, they are dirt cheap to replace unlike the B series.

Just my .02.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SicilianSpeed42 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">For boost, the LS motor (B18) will give you nice results, so will the D16z6, but for a cheaper price. It depends on your goals. The D16z6 will handle a max of 300 hp with a good tune on stock internals, which is plenty of hp. Another benefit, if you blow it up, they are dirt cheap to replace unlike the B series.

Just my .02.</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

what is it that you are wanting go get out of your motor swap? like do you want to go turbo later on or do you just want to just put the motor in and go. My suggestion is this if you want to just go motor and have fun with it do the jdm gsr. the reason why is because it is a good motor all around. it while go fast the way it is or if you decide to turbo it will work out very nicely! so really its kinda a one stop shop kinda deal.

 

do the gsr.

 

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you probably didn't see that he listed the H22A

- and why on earth whould you swap an H23 into a civic. if this is what you have narrowed it down to you need to at least start to try to maybe a little SEARCH.

so why would you put an H23 instead of an H22 in a civic that was going to get boosted.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ****** &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So if it's a D15B, then how could it be a D16Y6...two different displacement motors? I've searched for D16Y6 and lots of other people don't know what the hell it is either.

The D15B is the JDM version of the D16Z6, slightly more aggressive cam, etc. The stuff you listed.

I'm still confused about the D16Y6 thing. I've heard of D16A6, Z1, B7, Y7, Z6, Y8...but never a Y6.</TD></TR></TABLE>


http://www.jdmcustoms.com/dseries.html
That is where I got D16Y6 from, so I don't know, maybe the website screwed up, maybe it is A6.

 

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so why would you put an H23 instead of an H22 in a civic that was going to get boosted.</TD></TR></TABLE>

If you look at the price he listed, it is obvious that he is referring to the JDM H23 vtec.

Further, the usdm h23 is a nice and less expensive (than h22) choice for boost.

 

Since you are on a budget, i'd say go with one of your SOHC VTEC choices. They are a dime a dozen.

 

JDM D15B, or Z6?

 

F it, get a K series. Though I dont think its worth the money. Personally, i think the best money/power balance would be a boosted LS motor, a friend of mine is running 12s with stock internals in his hatch

 

How much PSI?

 

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Things that won't be tolerated:
&gt; "Search n00b". If you tell someone to search, you had better provide them with a helpful link. This explains how to use the search function: https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=979961</TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by codyb13 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">even if you suggest another motor, but I am on a "budget," so I don't want to spend a huge amount of $. Thanks for any help.</TD></TR></TABLE>

It is not very clear what you want out of your motor. But, you <U>may</U> want to look into the f22 for some sohc powa. This will also comply with your budget dilemma. Your hatch is OBD2 so I believe any 96-up F motor will work. Hasport H series mounts will work. I'm not sure if this is a road you would be interested in, but I thought that I would throw it out there. http://www.SOHCHonda.com has a section devoted to the F-series motors and here http://www.streettuners.com/cu...ccord is a list of specs. Hope this helps.

-Red

 

Best bang for your buck would be the H22!!! I'm a B Series guy but we put an H22 in my friends hatch and ran 13.56 @ 3075 ft above sea level. basic bolt ons I/H/E!!!! I would go H the install is not to difficult!!!

 

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It is not very clear what you want out of your motor. But, you <U>may</U> want to look into the f22 for some sohc powa. This will also comply with your budget dilemma. Your hatch is OBD2 so I believe any 96-up F motor will work. Hasport H series mounts will work. I'm not sure if this is a road you would be interested in, but I thought that I would throw it out there. http://www.SOHCHonda.com has a section devoted to the F-series motors and here http://www.streettuners.com/cu...ccord is a list of specs. Hope this helps.

-Red</TD></TR></TABLE>


Torque! Definnitely not a swap im used to seeing, but man itd be cool to see an accord motor in a civic!

 

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It is not very clear what you want out of your motor. -Red</TD></TR></TABLE>

If you look at my first post...I plan on FI when I get a new motor. That is what I want to do, so uhhh, yeah I want to boost, thats not clear enough?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by codyb13 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you look at my first post...I plan on FI when I get a new motor. That is what I want to do, so uhhh, yeah I want to boost, thats not clear enough?</TD></TR></TABLE>No not really. It is clear that you want to boost, but it is not clear what level of hp you are wanting to make. You can say "I want to boost" all day long, but we won't be able to help you until we know how much boost you are wanting to run and what amount of power you are looking make. It would also help if you gave a ball park figure of what your budget is.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nitrared &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you <U>may</U> want to look into the f22 for some sohc powa. This will also comply with your budget dilemma. Your hatch is OBD2 so I believe any 96-up F motor will work. Hasport H series mounts will work. I'm not sure if this is a road you would be interested in, but I thought that I would throw it out there. http://www.SOHCHonda.com has a section devoted to the F-series motors and here http://www.streettuners.com/cu...ccord is a list of specs. Hope this helps.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Don't act like all I said is that "It's not clear what you want out of your motor." I also gave you my imput and did a little bit of researching so that I could make sure the info I provided was accurate. Like I said, I was throwing the F22 out there as a low-budget screamer. I believe that it has some real potential.

-Red

 

i too have gone through hthis debate..i decided to go for a b18c1...good torque..has vtec..pretty universal platform and has awesome potential for boost

 

Don't act like all I said is that "It's not clear what you want out of your motor." I also gave you my imput and did a little bit of researching so that I could make sure the info I provided was accurate. Like I said, I was throwing the F22 out there as a low-budget screamer. I believe that it has some real potential.

-Red[/QUOTE]

Well, I appreciate the input, and I didn't mean to offend you, and I was looking at F22's, and they are real cheap, so thanks for the suggestion, I'm leaning towards the F22, the LS, or one of the D's. I just want a new motor in the spring, that responds good to boost, I probably won't boost till mid summer, or the end. But I want to be able to run as much boost as possible on stock internals for a while, which I am thinking would be around 7-10psi, correct? Well thank you for your input, I really do appreciate it, and like I said, I wasn't trying to offend you by saying if I was not clear enough. Thanks. Also, when I was looking at the F22's, all I could find was OBD1, the website I've been looking at is http://www.jdmcustoms.com Would OBD1 cause me to run into any problems?

 

Its all up to you. how fast to do you want to be and how much money do u want to spend and how much work you want to put in your car.