allright, my shocks are pretty much toast, my del sol doesn't handle worth **** and it wobbles if im going over like 80 mph, im afraid the ****** thing is either gonna roll or spin out (again).

so im wondering how much it would cost just to replace my stock shocks, and then probably get some kind of lowering kit. im on a pretty tight budget, but i want my car to have control.

any help would be great.
thanks

 

buy yourself some tokico or kyb replacement struts, then some tein springs...cheap and they should last a while.

 

I would only buy Koni for my car from now on. They're not that much more expensive than the other adjustable type shocks, and they'll rock with the stock springs. You can lower the perch as well, so you can get a better look.

 

I would concur. You can get some Tein or H&R springs, and go with Koni's if you can.

 

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can you still get lowered w/ the stock springs? is that what you are set up as? how does it ride?

 

you can lower on your stock stuff. but i'm sure your stock equipment is worn and not in great condition. the other members are right. i like koni too, but you mentioned budget.

 

Im on Tokico Illuminas and ground control. If i turn them to the hardest setting, the car handles insanely good. And when im on the freeway, the car is super quiet and and has no shakes. If i turn it to the softest setting, it still handles pretty good but rides almost as nice as stock. I love my setup and have had no problems with it. I got my shocks new for 385$ on ebay and got some used ground controls for 120$. My setup was 505$. Thats about the price of some koni yellows. oh and im dropped about 2.2 inches on stock si rims, 50 series.

 

i have kyb gr2's and they run FINE for a daily driver ona budget, dont always listen to those people who say kyb sucks. i also have friends who have gr2's w/ tein springs, h&r etc. run fine, a little bouncy on bumps but otherwise its great.

 

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can you still get lowered w/ the stock springs? is that what you are set up as? how does it ride?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Koni Yellows (Sports) allow three different spring perch heights. If I recall correctly they are in 5/8" increments from stock height down a little over an inch. The Neuspeed Koni Yellows have 5 increments to lower OR raise the ride height.

for a budget, you can look at the Koni Reds. Can handle almost as much as the yellows without the adjustment. If I recall correctly, if you decide down the road you want the adjustability, you can send them to Koni to have them converted still.

Personally, I won't run anything but Koni and I've used both the KYB & Tokico. Both were horrible in comparison in MY OPINION. For the price of some new shocks and springs, you can get the yellows and lower the perch for a lower ride height and then upgrade to some stiffer/lower springs down the road.

 

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can you still get lowered w/ the stock springs? is that what you are set up as? how does it ride?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes. On the koni yellows, you can lower the spring perch that your stock springs will sit on. It will lower you about an inch.

I'm on Koni / GC combo right now; but if I didn't race my car, this is the setup I'd be running, with the possibility of upgrading to Eibach Pro-kits or the like.

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His springs should be fine. They have a very long life cycle.

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GR2s are a stock replacement only, and should not be used for anything with a higher springrate than stock. The bouncy ride is probably due to the springs being underdamped. I had the KYB AGXs in my car with Pro-Kit springs, and they ended up blowing very quickly, and caused serious handling problems.

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And they have a fantastic warantee and factory support. Should last the life of the car.

 

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His springs should be fine. They have a very long life cycle.

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I was talking about the struts, not the springs. Most people lower their cars using an aftermarket spring, not the perches on the strut since it only offers about one inch of adjustment.

 

I too would go with Koni & stock springs (lowered 1.3"). Then after a while save up for some ground control coilovers. They make a special version for Koni's & you get to pick your spring rates too... Oh yeah, the lifetime warranty on both the shocks & the coilovers is a big plus

As for the individual spring perch settings on the shocks: The front has 2 positions, a stock position & -1" position (that trabslates to 1.3" at the wheel). The rear has 3 positions, a stock position, a -1" position & a +1" position.

 

if you dont want to do the koni and stock springs then go with h&r sports or OE's and some kyb gr2s or adj....

 

this is giong to sound stupid, but i always thought the spring determined the drop?

can i also drop w/ koni adj shocks? anybody have a picture of the setup and how it looks?

hows it ride?

 

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im currently running koni yellows in the rear of my crx with stock springs. just using because i got em for cheap and testing them out. im not really enamored wit hthem. id rather go back to my illuminas. just an opinion. ill put my illuminas back on when i have time.

 

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can i also drop w/ koni adj shocks? anybody have a picture of the setup and how it looks?

hows it ride?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Springs do determine the drop. Konis have an adjustable perch (where the spring sits) on the shock body, so the spring will sit lower on the shock, which will lower the car.

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im currently running koni yellows in the rear of my crx with stock springs... im not really enamored wit hthem. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Interesting... since you got them for cheap, are you sure they're in good condition? I've driven quite a few stock cars with konis on track, and I'm always impressed by the control they have, even with less than ideal springs. That could translate into a bit more harshness on the road, but there's always a tradeoff with performance.