Been looking around for a turbo kit for my '02 RSX Type S for about two months now. In terms of bolt on turbo kits, the market seems pretty slim.
Let me lay down my goal: 12 anything. I want the car to be fast but more than likely I'll be dumping the stock 16s for something 2-3 inches bigger in the distant future. I'm not spending a dime on this car buying rims, CAI, not even a damn air freshner. All I'm doing now is research and saving my money.
I'm leaning towards the Stage 1 Cybernation Motorsports or a Full Race Stage 3 one. Cybernation's stage 1 puts down 290whp at 8 psi w/ Gaurdian EI on a stock '02 Type S. Price for that is $3800 w/o Gaurdian EI (don't know how much with). I couldn'tfind any numbers for the Full Race Kits but I did read that there rated at limits of 400 and up so I shouldn't have to worry about the manifold cracking or anything like that.

Hopefully someone in here can help me out decision wise. I honestly don't expect to be doing a whole lot of internal engine work (hopefully I'm right), just some better cams.

Long story short: How WHP to hit 12s in my RSX?

 

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I know somebody that is running the Greddy kit with 10psi and went 12.56 at 111.55. This was done on drag radials with about 300hp.

So I would think you could hit high twelves with around 275-280 on drag radials or even less with slicks. This is of course track, weather, and driver dependant.

Now on to turbo kits. If your not planning on upgrading internals then why go with something as expensive and serious as Full Race. Full Race is absolute top of the line and can handle over 400 hp with their stage one kit. A little overkill for what you are describing.

Cybernation Motorsports kit is pretty cheap. I owned the manifold and downpipe back in the day and definately was not impressed with the quality. They use a cheap wastegate that is known to creep, u bends are mild steel that rust quickly, manifold is "log" style and is extremely inefficient and the list goes on.

If your not looking to upgrade internals and 12's are your goal go Greddy. The kit brand new is 3200 and can be found used for 2000-2500. It will easily get you into the twelves on drag radials or slicks. The T517Z turbo it utilizes spools extremely quickly and the kit is quality. Except for one thing. Change the oil lines that come with the kit for some stainless steel ones. Other than that Greddy will be the cheapest way to get into the twelves by far.

 

Thanks alot. But I thought the GReddy turbo kits came with the wasteget set a 6 psi?

 

Yes, 6 psi is the stock boost setup but it can be changed.

You can either adjust the wastegate or purchase a boost controller. Either manual or electronic. Then you can adjust your boost to the limits of your particular setup.
10 psi and 300 hp is easily attained with RC 750cc injectors and a boost controller.

I would also look into purchasing K-pro rather than emanage.

 

if you go boost get kpro. dont trust anything but it. Ive been running 10 psi for 2 k now no problems.

 

Kpro is the best for engine management

 

heres all you need to do.

Get a supercharger (forget Turbos, you drive a Honda, rememeber?) and get the car TUNED properly. Tuning makes a BIG differenence, especially on the K-series. About 12psi ought to get you there with a free-flowing exhaust, large intake system, and good tires (I cant stress enough how important tires are.)

 

a **** load
doesn't matter how much hp you have, you need to get the power to the ground
the question you should be asking is how do i get all the power i have to the ground

 

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doesn't matter how much hp you have, you need to get the power to the ground
the question you should be asking is how do i get all the power i have to the ground </TD></TR></TABLE>

Why'd you even respond? I know how to get power to the ground.
I'm trying to get opinions on how much.

 

A **** load, definately not. A basic bolt on kit with a set of drag radials will get you into the twelves. Like I said before 275-290 will get you very high twelves on slicks or radials.

And what is up with the supercharger comment. There are hundreds of people over at CRSX with either Comptech or Jackson Racing superchargers. You know how many have hit twelves? 3, and one with the use of nitrous and the supercharger. Therefore two. With the instant response traction becomes a nightmare. Also boost upgradability is very limited thus making 12's harder than you would think.

Therefore if you want 12's consistantly and easily get a turbo kit. Greddy will suit your needs perfectly for the price.

 

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Get a supercharger (forget Turbos, you drive a Honda, rememeber?) and get the car TUNED properly. Tuning makes a BIG differenence, especially on the K-series. About 12psi ought to get you there with a free-flowing exhaust, large intake system, and good tires (I cant stress enough how important tires are.)</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yea a supercharger on a 4 cyclinder is always a good idea.. Dont forget that there is no aftercooler for the supercharger yet. Plus with a supercharger your not going to be faster than a turbo unless you spend alot more.

People cry no torque, but is that really bad.... top end is amazing all the torque does is makes your 60' higher in a bad way..

 

if you know how to drive, you will need anywhere from 270-300
depends on how deep into the 12s you want to hit
just get a good set of drag radials, and cybernation or greddy turbo and your golden
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not to be a dick in my previous post, but you WILL have problems putting the power to the ground
FWD sucks

 

you prob gonna be looking somewhere around 300HP. id go greddy or HKS if you have the money. definately get KPRO, larger injectors, I/H/E will help, also keep in mind if you do upgrade to larger rims that there is physics behind it....the larger the rim the more rotational mass it has.

 

new tires too. you'll have traction issues. lol.

 

A few guys on our team run the greddy kit and run low to mid 12's.

If you want come post on http://teamxxxracing.com//Forum/index.php? Rob or Andrew can tell you their set ups. They both run 12's

They are both running KPro btw.

 

220+whp w/ slicks will net you 12's no problem.
FYI my full interior 95 coupe SOHC greddy turbo on 12 psi went 12.5@108 4 years ago!

 

how much does the car weigh w/ u in it? very important question and surpirsed hasnt been brought up yet...get that bitch down to 2400 w/ driver and mid 200's w/ decent 60ft should get u your high 12sec time slip

 

My friend's turbo gsr swapped hatch ran a 12.6 with about 240whp. This was on 22" slicks.
You can have all the power in the world but if you can't stick it you will still be slow.
There is a lot of other factors that play into it.

 

exactly but he said power he didn't ask about traction or anything else so assuming that he will have a handle on the rest of the factors to run 12's(traction & driving) is very possible without much HP! Stock K20 in a hatch will get you high 12's so a turbo RSX should do it no problem!

 

we put together a car for a joke. its an stock single cam with a ebay turbo kit and on som 20" tall slicks it was running 12.44 and only making 228 whp and 198lbs torque

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Redline96LX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">heres all you need to do.

Get a supercharger (forget Turbos, you drive a Honda, rememeber?) and get the car TUNED properly. Tuning makes a BIG differenence, especially on the K-series. About 12psi ought to get you there with a free-flowing exhaust, large intake system, and good tires (I cant stress enough how important tires are.)</TD></TR></TABLE>

What the hell? There's nothing wrong with turbocharging a Honda... in fact... turbos are superior to superchargers on damn near every application. Either way... some boost will go a long way to get a RSX into the 12s. Good luck.

 

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What the hell? There's nothing wrong with turbocharging a Honda... in fact... turbos are superior to superchargers on damn near every application. Either way... some boost will go a long way to get a RSX into the 12s. Good luck. </TD></TR></TABLE>


hahaha how many big dogs (pro racers) are there that use supedchargers?

 

it's all about power to weight ratio + gearing + traction + driver

 

First of all superchargers on hondas suck and that is a fact. It's right after that part in the bible where got turned water into wine... "Thou shall never supercharge a honda, the lord said". They are inefficient and you won't make a lot of power. A properly sized turbo will outperform it in every way. The only good supercharged hondas I can think of is Larry's from endyn (400+ whp sohc) or any other custom supercharged hondas. Basic S/C kits blow ***.

For you goals I would probably just build your motor and stay N/A, but your car is kinda heavy so I a decent turbo kit would work great. You might be able to get away with keeping it N/A though. In a hatch you could hit 12's with a stock k20 with basic bolt ons and good tuning no problem. Traction and tuning are key.