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Old Dec 1, 2005 | 12:55 PM
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Im running 3 12" JL audio w6v2's and 3-500/1 mono JL audio amps. I got 0-gauge wire kit I have an upgraded alt. should i get a couple of 1 farad caps? I have a yellow top optima battery maybe go with a 2nd battery set up? thanks
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Old Dec 1, 2005 | 12:58 PM
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Caps aren't gonna hurt. Go for it. Get 3 or 4.
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Old Dec 1, 2005 | 06:09 PM
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Get the caps, 3 of them, one for each amp. 94
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Old Dec 1, 2005 | 09:57 PM
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oh my, dont get caps... thats such a waste, just get another battery. caps are a joke
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Old Dec 2, 2005 | 12:48 AM
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agreed caps are useless
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Old Dec 2, 2005 | 04:13 AM
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And what's the basis for the "caps are useless statement"????
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Old Dec 2, 2005 | 08:11 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18C_EJ8 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">And what's the basis for the "caps are useless statement"????</TD></TR></TABLE>Ditto that.
I have been installing caps on system before there were "caps for cars" even before there were amps for cars.
A batt. can't release power as fast as a cap can. 94
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Old Dec 2, 2005 | 08:27 AM
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yes, a batt can release power just as quick as any cap... caps are just a gimmick... hell all they are is a shitty battery. most the time you still get dimming etc. you want a strong electrical system get the big 3
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Old Dec 2, 2005 | 08:44 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Eugenics &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yes, a batt can release power just as quick as any cap... caps are just a gimmick... hell all they are is a shitty battery. most the time you still get dimming etc. you want a strong electrical system get the big 3</TD></TR></TABLE> LOL. yea you know what your talking about. 94
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Old Dec 2, 2005 | 08:45 AM
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Old Dec 2, 2005 | 09:09 AM
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ahhh capacitors - one of the greatest marketing gimmicks in all of car audio

does anyone here REALLY think that your system will sound better with a cap installed? especially on a JL Audio amp?!?!

If you don't want your light to dim, put a cap on them, not the stereo
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Old Dec 2, 2005 | 09:17 AM
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i had 2 caps running 1 amp to my W7 and the other cap was running the amp to my speakers and i still had dimming...so i bought my friends yellowcap and it still dimmed and then i took out both the caps and bam no more dimming
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^^^^^^ did you look at the cca of your old battery vs. the new?. They yellow top has more, any battery that is made like this will do better then a stock battery. I have installed system with a yellow top and still had dimming issues, If you max out ur electric system you are going to have dimming. regardless. A cap is there to keep the voltage straight. It helps the amp get the power it needs during the big bass transit. It also depends on how the cap is wired. I seen people say they have a cap installed and are still having dimming issues. But once you look at how it was installed you could tell why it was not working. Also a cap will help with alt whine by straighting out the ripples of the current. And if also goes by fareds, a 1/2 fared cap is not going to do anything for you monster amp. Also azncoolguy, how did you have your amps wired? If you had one power wire running to the back both of your amps shared both of thoses caps. there is no door to stop this from happening. Unless you had two power wires from your batt. Fcm, I am glad you are here to explain to all the noobs on how to install there system right. There is so much wrong info being posted in this site and on this post. Funny part being that a cap is nonething more then a battery, lol that is funny, because if that were the case people would be useing them to start there cars to save weight. A cap is not a battery, It is totally diffrent. And a cap does discharge quicker then a battery. For the person who says it does not. you need to stop installing. because you have no ideal on what you are talking about.
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Old Dec 2, 2005 | 11:32 AM
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So much has been said about caps on both sides of the argument, on one side they are the cure all for all elec. problems relating to amps, on the other side they are useless and a gimmick.
From experience I know they a nether, the will not solve all your problems, and they will not entirely get red of dimming lights, but they sure as hell are not a gimmick, they are a tool just like anything else, and just as important as bigger alt., batt. and good wiring.
I can't count the number of times that I have installed a cap next to an amp to solve the problem of "dimming" lights, to those that say it's a gimmick, you know who you are, it's a great gimmick because it works, argue all you want, that they don't work, your wrong, the do work. 94
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Old Dec 2, 2005 | 11:51 AM
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I will solve it all. I bought 1-yellow top today and ordered 3-1 farad caps... If it dont fix it I will do a another yellow top. thanks guys...
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Old Dec 2, 2005 | 02:18 PM
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they do sell 3 farad caps. If you don't have room to mount 3, Some companies sell cap banks, They look like amps but they are cap in a case. I have the ma audio 5 farad in my ma audio demo car.
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Old Dec 2, 2005 | 04:58 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wrx-killer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">they do sell 3 farad caps. If you don't have room to mount 3, Some companies sell cap banks, They look like amps but they are cap in a case. I have the ma audio 5 farad in my ma audio demo car.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Intresting. This is all going in my ridgeline. I found room for the subs,box,amps just dunno about the caps. Who all makes the caps that look like a amp?
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Old Dec 2, 2005 | 11:11 PM
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caps hah...

think of it like this, dont bite more than you can chew.

caps help prevent only one simple issue: car light dimming. it will not prevent strain on your alternator (matter of fact, puts more stressif any) or any part of your overall electrical system.

do yourself and you car a favor: http://forum.sounddomain.com/f...801;p= DIY the big-3
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Old Dec 3, 2005 | 08:49 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JTTeG_X &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">caps hah...

think of it like this, dont bite more than you can chew.

caps help prevent only one simple issue: car light dimming. it will not prevent strain on your alternator (matter of fact, puts more stressif any) or any part of your overall electrical system.

do yourself and you car a favor: http://forum.sounddomain.com/f...801;p= DIY the big-3 </TD></TR></TABLE> I definitely agree if the "big 3" has not already been done it should be, and yes caps add load to the alt. just like the amps do and a bigger batt. or second batt.
I disagree that a cap only prevents dimming, in simple terms the lights dim because there is not enough power to go around when the the amp tries to draws the current it needs for the bass spike, it only stands to reason if the lights don't get enough power the amp doesn't ether , a cap, [if installed properly] will supply that "burst " of power to the amp when needed. 94
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Old Dec 3, 2005 | 07:41 PM
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i have a 1 farad cap and i still have alot of light dimming when i crank it up.
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Old Dec 4, 2005 | 07:00 AM
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Have you done the "big 3" upgrade yet?
What size amp, and how is it wired, gauge of power and ground cable?
Where is the amp grounded?
Where and how is the cap installed?
Where is the cap grounded?

As has been said, a cap will not get rid of all dimming, when you installed the cap did it make any diff? 94
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Old Dec 4, 2005 | 06:16 PM
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Im running a directed audio 750d amp, pro audio did all my installation running 4 guage wires. Cant really tell much difference with the cap i still get alot of dimming. I have a optima yellow top battery also.
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Old Dec 5, 2005 | 09:38 AM
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Try a BatCap.
Or at least something bigger than a 1 farad,i have never had anything good from them.

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Old Dec 5, 2005 | 02:31 PM
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I had a bone stock 93 Ex running a JL 300/2 and a PG 1200.1 Tantrum. The only light that EVER dimmed was the dome light.

I never upgraded the "magic three," and before doing so I'd make sure that my amp gains were sufficient.
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Old Dec 5, 2005 | 03:18 PM
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wrong, dont try a bat cap, if anything upgrade that puny alt
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