Alright guys i just bought my 2002 S2000 about 2 months ago, im only 18 paying for it myself so im doin pretty good right now, i got money comin in for mods slowly since im paying for this pricey car myself, and i alrdy have a list of wut i want to start off with, cant decided on intakes though AEM V2 or K&N their both great products but im leaning more towards K&N, now for exhaust i was originally going to go with the HKS Hyper Racing Exhaust but i heard it takes about 8rwhp from the car and has been discontinued! So now im left with the choices of Invidia High Performance Exhasut or Comptech, prolly going to go with Invidia because of the price difference. So if you guys have any suggestions please reply.

 

all filters on a stick are the same... it's the filters that matter..

whoever told you the hks loses that much power is lying to you.... i have an hks on my car and i lost nothing i actually gained after tuning....

invidia is a loud *** exhuast

 

ill show you wut someone said i was talkin to on cardomain this guy is sponsored and has like a 450hp S2k its nice and hes cool as hell and this is what he said,

hey whats up man thanks for the complement i see on your list you want the hks exhaust i wanted that that exhaust to until i researched it it actually takes 8 rwhp from the car and its ben discontinued i found that the best exhaust are the invidia , rsr and comptech if your interested call me at ***-***-**** im selling my invidia exhaust for 489.00 plus shipping thats 1/2 the retail price almost its been very good to me but unfortunately i have to put my comptech exhaust back on due to my sponcership call me if your interested

i think he knows a hell of a lot about cars n parts then i do so i kind of believed him i dunno i still want Invidia though i want my S2000 to be loud as hell!

 

Losing power on HKS, i dont think so. I did research myself, there is no proof that it loses power, and the guy who did lose power i recall also lost power with an AEM intake. That doesnt mean an AEM loses power.

I got an HKS Dual, Spoon TP, Comptech intake and dynoed 200-203HP on a dyno jet. Mind you my intake filter was filthy and had sand, rocks, and a puddle of water in the ice box when i cleaned it after the dyno day. One guy gained 7 hp with the comptech intake filter off, but thats not the point. Other AP1's there that were stock dynoed around 190-193. I believe if i cleaned my intake filter before the dyno i would have gained a few more HP. Since then i have added a VAFC2, i will be dynoing in the following weeks hopefully gaining 215HP+

 

it's all a bunch of junk...

i have an 03.. with an hks, 4IG CAI, and vafc II.... had the car dynoed at 210rwhp and it was 90degree temp and 50% humidity... and the engine was getting heat soaked by the time the vafc II was tuned...

invidia, rsr, and comptech are just normal exhaust.. nothing special about them.. just like there's nothing special about the hks....

if this dude truely knew what he was talking about.. he would of told you the best exhaust for the S is a SINGLE EXHAUST...

 

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Don't get caught up in sponsorship. A lot of show cars have sponsorship, and that means nothing if you want performance. IMO stay with stock for a while. I don't think the power gain from exhaust and intake will impress you much. If you're doing it for sound, then I can't be of much help.

 

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Don't get caught up in sponsorship. A lot of show cars have sponsorship, and that means nothing if you want performance. .</TD></TR></TABLE>

agreed.... besides.. when the car is sponsored that means the company that is sponsoring is usually the ones the determine what goes on the car and do the installs.... and the actual owner of the car just donates the car.... (this is not always the case.. but it does happen..) .... which means... my mom could donate her car and be sponsored.. and have her car decked out but does she know anything about the car.. nope...

 

T1r or J's for exhaust.

I would suggest the K&N intake, comes with a pretty nifty heat box thingy!

I've got the T1r exhaust, J's header, and K&N intake and the car is really fun and sounds great. Now just saving for EMS and tuning...

 

I think those parts you mentioned will 'STR8 RAPE' you for sure if thats what ur looking for

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tony Yeung &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Losing power on HKS, i dont think so. I did research myself, there is no proof that it loses power, and the guy who did lose power i recall also lost power with an AEM intake. That doesnt mean an AEM loses power.

I got an HKS Dual, Spoon TP, Comptech intake and dynoed 200-203HP on a dyno jet. Mind you my intake filter was filthy and had sand, rocks, and a puddle of water in the ice box when i cleaned it after the dyno day. One guy gained 7 hp with the comptech intake filter off, but thats not the point. Other AP1's there that were stock dynoed around 190-193. I believe if i cleaned my intake filter before the dyno i would have gained a few more HP. Since then i have added a VAFC2, i will be dynoing in the following weeks hopefully gaining 215HP+</TD></TR></TABLE>

good numbers w/ bolt ons

 

So Invidia Exhaust, K&N Intake, and DC Sport Header will be fine to start off with. These parts arent to exspensive and are quality performance parts for your money. Im deciding on the type of header though ceramic, brushed or polished, i think ceramic is only good if its coated both instead and out of the header instead just on the outside, brushed and polished look nice just pricey.

 

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lol....that **** was funny

 

get Invidia ...ther a lil loud but they look nice to me..thers a black one at my skool wit invidia's...i stare alot..lol

 

I have a S2000 with a sideways 4G63T inside. ****** rips.

 

dc header = junk
invidia exhuast = very loud, sounds nice up top but the drone while crusing is ridiculous

 

Me: ok heres response to the whole HKS power lose on the HKS Hyper Racing Exhaust for you guys....

Friend On Cardomain: hey did you send me that email about the guy telling you that he got more power with a bs k&N filter and all filter are the same on the stick and that the hks exhaust dose gives more power well thats not thrue i spoke to hks my self when i found out the exaust was dicontinued and they said the reason was because it lost power and that they dint want a product that lost power and since they where not making a foce induction kit for the s2000 they had no need to produce the exhaust and also i would not trust any one who would tell me that all filters on a stick are the same because the s2000 only came in a stick oviously there all the same. and a single exhaust is only better if you have force induction any other way it dont relly matter. to much air flow is not good on a naturelly asperated vehecule theres an ecuation for air fuel and mixture even on naturely asperate cars and honda perfected that with the s2000 its almost imposible to improve it. the exhaust i told you about are unique in there power improvement its not much but no lost of power trust me i now my **** look at my car and look at his and compare and sponcership is the best thing in the world all they want is there name on your car for one year or two and you safe lots i could never have done all this with out sponcerships.

Me: Guys i think im leaning more towards his side of the story i think he does know his ****. I dunno i guess you guys can have your different opinions, plz reply im interested in hearing what you guys have to say.

 

well one thing.. that guy doesnt' know how to use punctuation.... lol...

and he's wrong on a lot of things... but either way.. you can believe him cause he's got sponsors.. or you can believe me.... your choice...

 

my sponsor says: bullshit

 

lol....

 

Wow........

Just stay stock for a little bit.

You obviously don't know too much about this car yet and neither does your cardomain friend. Search around, find out for yourself what is best for YOUR car.

Cheap mods only hurts the car's performance, so take your time, build up some money, and invest in some quality products. Don't rush into modding the car just yet....you'll save yourself money and headaches later on down the road.

 

actually he does know a lot about his S2000 hes 35 years old and has been doing this for a while and hes foreign so you got to give him some slack with his spelling, but to me it made sense what he said i dont think he bs'in i dunno i appreciate all your inputs and suggestions, heres his cardomain site if you wanna look at his S. Peace

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/521634

 

he doesn't know what he's talking about dude... it's quite obvious.. everyone that has even posted in this thread has disagreed with him....

"hey did you send me that email about the guy telling you that he got more power with a bs k&N filter and all filter are the same on the stick"

filters on a stick are all the same.... it's a freeking aluminum tube with a filter slapped on the end of it.... the filter is what makes the difference....pure and simple.....


"hks exhaust dose gives more power well thats not thrue i spoke to hks my self when i found out the exaust was dicontinued and they said the reason was because it lost power and that they dint want a product that lost power and since they where not making a foce induction kit for the s2000 they had no need to produce the exhaust"

i have an HKS exhaust and i have dyno sheets to prove that i lost NO power.... there are two types of HKS exhausts, one was discontinued because the newer version was released..... why keep out two exhausts that are virtually the same when all you need is one... discontinue the older model.. keep the newer model....it's as simple as that......besides.. why would it matter if hks wasn't coming out with a forced induction setup for this car, why would they not make and exhaust because of this....

"a single exhaust is only better if you have force induction any other way it dont relly matter. to much air flow is not good on a naturelly asperated vehecule theres an ecuation for air fuel and mixture even on naturely asperate cars"

not true... we have a 4 banger.... 4 banger = 1 header = 1 exhuast..... v6 = 2 header = 2 exhausts..... it's a pretty simple concept....the dual exhaust on our cars is not a true dual exhaust.. it's just made to be dual.. but in reality it's a single with a split at the end with two mufflers.. (loss of power).... j's racing is an NA car.. it's running a single, amuse has a NA car.. it's running a single, spoon has an NA car.. it's running a single.... i can go on and on.... now if all those companies are wrong, including myself in this matter, then i quit modding for the rest of my life..... (good thing they aren't wrong and i'm not wrong)

"honda perfected that with the s2000 its almost imposible to improve it. "

the s2000 is not a perfect car.. and it's not impossible to improve on...it's not easy but it's doable... with the right combination of I/H/E people have gained up to 25rwhp..... keep in mind.. (SINGLE EXHAUST)......and tuning is key....


"look at my car and look at his"

this right here show's he's just "a look at me" type of boy....... just cause he has a sponsorship doesn't mean he knows more then someone else.... just cause his car is more modded because of the sponsorship doesn't mean he knows more then someone else... like i said before my mom could get sponsored with her car and have them mod her car.. will she know whats in it or more about cars then me?? absolutely not..


but like i said it's up to you... believe this guy thats giving you false information.. or believe in us in this thread.... your choice....

 

LISTEN TO WHAT WE ARE SAYING DUDE!!!!!!!

If you want to make any power do not go with cheap *** **** (DC crap) with this car. I wanted to add some positive input (giving you the benefit of the doubt) but after the previous posts with your dumbass friend you shall receive generic advise.

Save your money, buy some better tires and brake pads (w/ syntheic brake fluid), and go do a couple HPDE's cause it sounds like you despretly need to actually learn (safely) what the car can do before you start any kind of modifying.

 

my sponsor says: you'll be surprised how this car handles differently on wet and dry and he doesn't just mean that in a positive way..........

 

Sponsorship is nice. I wish a sponsor paid for tires for my track sessions. Still doesn't mean I'd become immensely knowledgeable after getting a tire sponsorship, or any there of. I know people in their 30s with the car and don't know a damn about it. People with 400+ hp, they just have money to play with. Unless he's a Mugen technician or teaches Mech E at a university, he doesn't know any more than the rest, if that.

Best filterstick = AEM V2 if I'm guessing right. Waiting for S2k KIDD to finish testing all those airboxes, then we'll know which one works.