Hi, my bud is looking to replace is 92 GS motor in his teg. (I did a search and found nothing.. huh) He was thinking of just throwing in another B18, so which motor does he have now, the B18a or b? And which jdm engine code will be a direct swap and use the same ecu.

Also, he was thinking B16, whats the info on this, the mounts I guess are generally the same in B series, but do you have to do a little work there or not. And seeing as the motor is an OBD1 (GS), what is involved in wiring the B16 first gen as far as vtec and other ****. THanks for the help.

 

he has a b18a...obd1 motor....check out http://www.b17a.com for b16's

 

if the gs isnt obd1 a b16a1 will be the easiest swap to do u just need to run 3 vtech wires maybe 4 wires my friend and i r putting a b16a1 in his 91 teg ls special everything is pretty easy he is using the b16a tranny though great for acceleration but crappy top end power i think the 92-93 has hydro tranny so therfore i would use either the b17 or b18 out of an obd1 car you will probably need a mount kit for b18c ive heard of people mix and matching with b18a and b18c motor mount kits but everything else is pretty much plug and play also i think there is 4 vtech wires to be ran on obd1

 

u do not need a mount kit...the 92 to 93's is obd 1...90-91 are non OBD...and all 2nd gen integras have cable trans

 

ok, so I know he has an OBD 1 B18a engine, so for him to just buy a longblock he will need the same. And if he wanted a B16a1 than he would need to do what wiring wise? Because they are a OBD0 arn't they? Will the rest of the swap assuming he grabs the tranny and stock B16a1 ecu just be a direct swap? THat webpage posted earlier is under construction.

 

not all 2gen tegs r cable clutch thats one of the mane reason it is so hard to put a b17 in 90-91

 

his is cable.

 

ARE U ******* DRUNK...ALL 2ND GEN INTEGRAS ARE CABLE TRANS.....SHMUCK

 

yeah, thats what I thought, but lets not start a fight in my thread..k, take it somewhere else, I need to know my previous questions about the B16a1

 

WHY?
Why on earth would you put a civic motor in an integra. That is an insult. you are going to lose a lot of torque. You should look at upgrading the car not downgrading. You should find out about the GRS(94+)(B18C1). Or if you could find the Type R(B12C5). There are a lot better motors that a B16a.

 

yeah no, dollar figures are the key here man, I can pick up a B16 swap here in canada for about $750us, and a B18a swap for $600 or so. The b18 has nice torque, but damn the b16s rev. A little more hp with the b16, but like you said, lost torque. So.... is the B16 really not a good choice?

 

Is a 92 or 93 teg alot easier to put a b18c1 into than say a civic obd2?

 

that was a vague question, an Si, or and ex, or what, I need my question answered too here.

 

sice u ave an obd 1 mtor u should get a obd 1 motor..u can get them from http://www.b17a.com ro 2500 ready to be dropped in ur car..prsonaly I would stick with the ls mots...vtec is overated

 

Where do you get your info??? The B16A is also an Integra motor...better check yourself before you diss this guy and his friend on their swap!!!! Oh and what is a B12C5?!?!


[Modified by FreeMyndz, 3:35 PM 3/15/2002]

 

Check out my engine swap guide. Should help you out immensely.
http://www.g2ic.com/tegtips/engine/E...Swap_Guide.doc

 

There are some real stupid asses on the internet. In Japan the B16a came on the 90-93 Integra XSI. While there is loss of torque you gain top end power that the B18a/b can't match.


[Modified by HONDAF1, 3:46 PM 3/15/2002]

 

that is because all of the jdm integra xsi's had b16s do some info searching before you open ur mouth

 

first off is this guy in japan jackass nooo!!! so go **** ur self ...he is right why on earth would u want to put a b16 in a teg.. hahahaa u must be on crack ...drop either b18 series or a h22 in there...not a b16 ull have no torque and the car will lag big time..while ur waiting for ur high end push.....and if its time ur trying to save with the engine swap go drive a pinto...no job is a fast one dill weed...


[Modified by timbuktu, 12:27 AM 3/16/2002]

 

You are also a STUPID ***. A H22 in an Integra is so ignorant. It will be a no handling piece of ****! There will be no lag with a B16. The B17 which only has 7 ft lbs more of torque is awesome in a G2. Honda would not have put it in there if it wasn't. B16s are so cheap, with the money you save you can put in some CTR pistons and Type R cams that will give you more torque and power throughout all the powerband.

 

u guys are talking way to much...everyone has their own opinion....H series or b series..everyone should just worry about their own car

 

Lets keep everything where it was designed and intended to be. H-series engines in Accords and Preludes, and B-series engines in Civics and Integras. The engineers at Honda designed the respective chassis to handle the intended engine.


[Modified by HONDAF1, 9:31 PM 3/15/2002]

 

Ok, so I went away for the weekend, and came back really confused. Now, is the B16a a good choice?? Who can prove this, like what are the stock 1/4mile time differences and such. And that article does help a lot, but it was intended for a non OBD motor swap, while I am looking at a OBD1 motor swap. THings do cross over, and it did help so thank you. But what wiring will need to be done for a OBD 1 B18a - B16a OBD 0 swap? And what is the B18b that comes from japan, OBD??

 

buddy of mine ran a 15.3 with a b16 in his teg....ther s no such thing as a b18b from japan, only the b20, I think the UK has a b18b though....its all about what u want to do man...what are ur future plans...do u plan on running 12's? 13's? o just want someting to cruise around in and pick u chicks? its all about what u want! not what people want for u!

 

Half you guys are dicks. Whats with all the fighting? Hardly anyone here seems to have researched anything they are talking about. Check out Dan's guide. Hes got great info in there. It helped me a lot. A B16a kicks *** in a G2 integra. There is minimal lost of low end torque which can be regained with boltons and cams if you have the $$. A b18c would also be nice but its a bit more expensive. Dont even thing about an H series unless you just want a drag car.