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Old Nov 26, 2005 | 09:33 PM
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http://cgi.ebay.com/MILLER-AME...wItem


http://cgi.ebay.com/HORNELL-SP...wItem


Pros and cons ? Anyone have either one, feedback welcome.
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Old Nov 26, 2005 | 09:40 PM
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i suppose that is a good price... i just got the cheapest autodarkening one i could find on ebay that met all the safety standards. it was somewhere around $55 shipped. works fine for me.
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Old Nov 26, 2005 | 09:44 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by weirRacing &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i suppose that is a good price... i just got the cheapest autodarkening one i could find on ebay that met all the safety standards. it was somewhere around $55 shipped. works fine for me.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I pretty much did the same thing, and never had a problem. Was thinking an upgrade would not hurt me.
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Old Nov 26, 2005 | 11:43 PM
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the miller helmet...i have one and they're sick. UBER comfortable...the adjustable band doesnt pinch my hair...and its pretty bulletproof.
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Old Nov 27, 2005 | 09:30 AM
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^^^ what he said. I have one too, and it works perfect.
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Old Nov 27, 2005 | 09:35 AM
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The Speedglas model is only a shade 10 model, which wouldn't be very helpful with TIG, especially low amperage TIG welding. The Miller has and adjustable shade level from 9 to 13, so it's fairly obvious which one to pick if you're going to be doing some TIG welding.

Right now I'm using a $75 Harbor Freight special. I turn it all the way down to shade 9 when I TIG, but I'm hoping to buy a nice Speedglas helmet soon.
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Old Nov 27, 2005 | 09:45 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 117 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The Speedglas model is only a shade 10 model, which wouldn't be very helpful with TIG, especially low amperage TIG welding. The Miller has and adjustable shade level from 9 to 13, so it's fairly obvious which one to pick if you're going to be doing some TIG welding.

Right now I'm using a $75 Harbor Freight special. I turn it all the way down to shade 9 when I TIG, but I'm hoping to buy a nice Speedglas helmet soon. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I noticed that, and I think I have the same helmet as you or similar.
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Old Nov 27, 2005 | 09:47 AM
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I've got the Miller big window elite and dont have any complaints. Not what you posted up there, but I like it.
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Old Nov 27, 2005 | 10:06 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by k24em2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I've got the Miller big window elite and dont have any complaints. Not what you posted up there, but I like it.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Nov 27, 2005 | 10:15 AM
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i love miller machines, in fact its all we use.

but, i've tried the miller helmet, and it makes me want my Speedglas back everytime.
no solid settings on the miller, only autodark settings.
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Old Nov 27, 2005 | 01:52 PM
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You mean like black all the time?
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Old Nov 27, 2005 | 02:01 PM
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yeah, solid shade
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Old Nov 27, 2005 | 04:44 PM
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I've got a speedglass, 9002x i think, and i love it!
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Old Nov 27, 2005 | 05:03 PM
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the first was is ugly as crap

personally...i always use a non-auto darkening helmet. i got the $30 special at national welders, their logo'd one, and it works great for what little i ever do
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Old Nov 27, 2005 | 05:07 PM
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I've got the $30 local weld shop special for when i need a non-auto one. It works good.
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Old Nov 27, 2005 | 06:10 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rhd &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the first was is ugly as crap</TD></TR></TABLE>

What ? If you are saying its ugly, since when does a good mask need to look good ?
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Old Nov 27, 2005 | 08:16 PM
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it's more of a personal preference thing

i mean, i'd not get a mask that looked like that.....cause, well, i think it's ******* ugly. for the most part, a mask is a mask. some are lighter, some are heavier....just try on a bunch and figure out what fits best for your head and your useage. i tried on all of the ones at several welding shops, and endedup with a $30 mask that made me happier than any of the $100+ ones on the market. and it's flat black, so it's honda-tech approved for "JDM"
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Old Nov 29, 2005 | 06:30 AM
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The Speedglas............hands down! The Miller is lighter but I prefer the settings and overall quality of the Speedglas.
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Old Nov 29, 2005 | 07:31 AM
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i use a cheap jackson helmet. i hated gettin flashed with my miller helmet
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Old Nov 29, 2005 | 08:18 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by spiceisler &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The Speedglas............hands down! The Miller is lighter but I prefer the settings and overall quality of the Speedglas.</TD></TR></TABLE>

What other settings does it have.
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Old Nov 29, 2005 | 08:26 AM
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speedglas is by far a better helmet overall i own one and love it dont get me wrong the miller ones are eye catching but for quality and the safety of your eyes i would def go with speedglas
the speedglas has better controls and they are the original people that made the first auto darkening helmet they use swedish technology and glass in there helmets
another thing is that speedglas makes all the lenses for all the other companies like miller and others for there helmets its just that they put there name on it and change the design a little

my personal opinion i would go with speedglas for the quality fit and reliabilty

your getting every pennies worth when you by that helmet and now the prices dropped because i got my helmet when they were still about 500 and up and i have no regret whats so ever

good luck
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Old Nov 29, 2005 | 08:30 AM
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So what shade is good for tig ? I don't like the fact that you can't change that setting with the speedglas
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Old Nov 29, 2005 | 08:35 AM
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It depends on the amperage that you're using. I usually use a shade 9-10 for most of my stuff, but if I'm doing real high amp stuff (not on my 180) I turn it up.
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Old Nov 29, 2005 | 08:36 AM
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the settings can be changed the shade on my helmet is fro 9 - 13 and sensitivity 1-4 and delay + and - i have the 9002x lens
hope that helps
with aluminum you want to go a higher shade at low amps because it gives alot brighter arc and this helmet is perfect because of the different ranges you can pick

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Old Nov 29, 2005 | 08:48 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dk-fabrications &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the settings can be changed the shade on my helmet is fro 9 - 13 and sensitivity 1-4 and delay + and - i have the 9002x lens
hope that helps
with aluminum you want to go a higher shade at low amps because it gives alot brighter arc and this helmet is perfect because of the different ranges you can pick

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Actually I don't think the one I'm looking at can be changed, because they have seperate helmets with different shade, 1 helmet is a shade 10 I think, and the other is 11.
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