For a while now I have been debating on both of these exhaust set ups. I was reading that the Comptech exhaust set ups havn't proven much improvements over the stock and the size is only 2.25 throughout. The skunk 2 parts seem to be proven very well however I have found little information about just the exhaust set up itself. It would be very much appreciated if anyone has some input about both set ups in comparison to:

1. Peformance
2. Quality and Reliablitly
3. Sound of Exhaust

Thanks guys. Any also, if you suggest another set up that may be around this price range of say 500-850 I will deffinitly start some research on it as well. Again, thanks in advance.

 

I personally can't stand the sound of an exhaust from inside the car. Theres more power to be made with a good header/testpipe if you don't already have one. I use a Spoon header -> T1R resonated testpipe -> stock exhaust. Anthony had a Comptech in his R which wasn't too bad, but still too loud for me. Then he moved to a 2.5" K Teller with an 18" resonator and Magnaflow muffler which was even louder. The Junk2 exhaust is the same as the Invidia which could be bought for a few hundred cheaper if you don't mind the Invidia badge instead. It sounds pretty good, very much like an Apex N1.

They're both full stainless steel which I can't say the same for HKS or Apex'i.

I do find the sound of the T1R pretty nice inside and out. The top 3 exhaust on my list are Hytech, T1R and Moogen.

1. Hytech - Uber bling, super quiet, 2.5" mandrel bent full SS twin loop muffler with the best looking tip on the market IMO which strongly resembles the stock. Sound is identical to stock and doesn't make you want to fall asleep everytime you cruise on the highway. I can't even remember hearing it from inside the car when I was riding in Lori's car. If I had $900 to drop on an exhaust, this would be it.

2. T1R - Blinging titanium tip, 2.5" mandrel bent full SS with offset muffler canister that doesn't hang too low for good ground clearance and a little stealth. Sounds great with or without the silencer. Looks pretty damn good without having the ricer blingage and can be found new for $650-$700.

3. Mooogen - It's JDM......


Modified by Jowee 1162 at 5:58 PM 11/25/2005

 

by looking at the price range you have provided, try taking a look at a Fujitsubo exhaust system. i have never owned a fujitsubo, but have only heard great things about them. Do you have a header on your car yet? If not, i would space out your purchases and invest in a header, T1R resonated test pipe/or cat of some sort, and then your catback exhaust. You will be rather disappointed with your power gains by just adding on a comptech or skunk2 exhaust.

kind of what jowee said, anything with JASMA on it would a be a good buy

 

Well, I was basically gonna do the exhaust and header basically at the same time. I figure I might as well attack the whole entire flow rather then piece by piece. I was leaning towards the TODA or just the JDM ITR header. That would basically lean towards the cash flow by the end of Jan of Feb. Let me ask this, do you think it would be wise to save up another 2 weeks and jump on the mugen?

 

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the mugen twin-loop exhaust or header? the twin loop is a very high quality exhaust. im sure that you will recieve good feedback on the twin-loop

 

The exhaust that is. Do you think it is significantly better then the comptech? Also, how do you think the mugen compares to the hytech in terms of performance?

 

The comptech is a nice exhaust. I'm surprised more folks haven't bought it, but then again it isn't as ricey, so maybe that's why.

Comptech = nice deep sound and a perfect 3.5" rolled tip.

The only drawback is that it isn't any lighter than the oem system. And exhaust on a close to stock ITR isn't a huge power producer anyways, so don't buy into that hype.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ITR0065 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The exhaust that is. Do you think it is significantly better then the comptech? Also, how do you think the mugen compares to the hytech in terms of performance?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Define "better."

Mugen has bottle necks from what I can remember and isn't 2.5" pipe. So there might be a little bit mor hp to be found in the Hytech.

More people probably don't get the Comptech because noone sells it for more than 10% off LIST price which is $695.

 

Can you explain what you are talking about when you say bottle necks? And when I say better, i just mean more power gains. I'm going to assume the hytech and the mugen somewhat sound alike? Would this assumption be correct? And i realize that my motor is near stock now, but down the road i do plan on going NA Power. So I'm trying to think for the future too. Thanks guys.

 

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1. Peformance
2. Quality and Reliablitly
3. Sound of Exhaust

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As per the Skunk2 which I currently have and Not in direct comparison to the Comptech since I don't have it and have only seen it and heard it.

1. Minimal gains and only noticable at top end under Wide Open Throttle.

2. Good quality for a mass produced item. Full TIG welded SS 60mm OD. Big heavy/sturdy flanges, bolts right up fits fine. Included all hardware. Is definitely lighter than stock but I'm sure there are lighter catbacks out there than it.

3. Sounds good I guess, ask anyone that's been to a track where I've been because I rarely get to hear it from the outside. On the inside it's pretty loud since I don't have rear interior.

For the price it's a deal for a full 60mm OD SS N1 styled catback. Another good point was that it came with a silencer included which iirc you had to buy seperately for the Apexi. I've had the exhaust on for 3 years, multiple times at several tracks and never had any noise issues. Ironically my last track event at Limerock park last month where they are very strict on noise, I got the meatball for noise. I came in and stuffed the silencer in the can and went back out with no further issues. So I guess it can be pretty loud at WOT.

Am I satisfied? Yes, for the price. Would I have chosen the Comptech? No, I had compared the Apexi N1 and Spoon N1 at the time, when T1R and Fujitsubo and whatever else wasn't yet available. The Skunk2/Invidia catback provided what I needed at an affordable price.

 

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Am I satisfied? Yes, for the price. Would I have chosen the Comptech? No, I had compared the Apexi N1 and Spoon N1 at the time, when T1R and Fujitsubo and whatever else wasn't yet available. The Skunk2/Invidia catback provided what I needed at an affordable price.

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Would you have chosen the mugen or hytech though? If yes, why that one?

 

I had/have the Skunk2 Megapower.

Performance - I'm guessing that the performance of it is comparable to other straight through muffler designs with 60mm piping.

Quality - The quality is excellent with tig welds and heavy dude flanges like Anton said. Its full stainless so I havent had any rust issues at all which is good because of the harsh northeast winters.

Sound - I'll put it this way... I've gotten 5 exhaust tickets with it so far. Since then I've gotten an RSR Ex-Mag axle-back to toggle with.

I recommend it if sound isnt much of an issue But its not jdm ...

 

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I think everyone looks at or looked at Mugen at one time or another. At the time I looked at it there were minor bottlenecks which to me couldn't justify the price. But the sound is very nice imo.

Yes I considered the Hytech. Which is of a similar twin pass design as the Mugen. I didn't choose it because I already had a good header and HF cat and was completely stock and OEM tuning. I had no need for a catback with as large diameter as the Hytech. I wasn't going for any aggressive NA setup so actually stock or a 60mm did just fine. And it didn't fit into my requirements as well as budget.

If I was to go custom exhaust however I would go SMSP simply because I'm more impressed with his product both design and quality and have seen and heard more of his stuff first hand.

In all honesty I bought the Skunk2 to actually hear the car on track when I have my helmet, ear plugs and earphones on. I wanted to hear it for better revmatching pure and simple. May sound silly but that's the real reason I got a grapefruit shooter

 

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I think everyone looks at or looked at Mugen at one time or another. At the time I looked at it there were minor bottlenecks which to me couldn't justify the price. </TD></TR></TABLE>

When you say were, do you mean to tell me that Mugen has resolved these issues?

 

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When you say were, do you mean to tell me that Mugen has resolved these issues?

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The last time I looked there was at least one necking down in the exhaust, iirc it was before the muffler portion. But this was back in 2001. Things may have changed since.

 

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The last time I looked there was at least one necking down in the exhaust, iirc it was before the muffler portion. But this was back in 2001. Things may have changed since.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Can anyone answer this question? Has mugen resolved these issues?

 

i "had" the comptech, it had a nice quiet sound all the time and didn't attract alot of attention looks or sound wise.. The only issue i had with the exhaust is that it was a 2.25in exhaust. I now run a Kteller 2.5" catback with a magnaflow wide open series muffler and a magnaflow high flow cat.. It sounds like sex nice and deep and is full 2.5" from the time it leaves the header.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by blkitr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i "had" the comptech, it had a nice quiet sound all the time and didn't attract alot of attention looks or sound wise.. The only issue i had with the exhaust is that it was a 2.25in exhaust. I now run a Kteller 2.5" catback with a magnaflow wide open series muffler and a magnaflow high flow cat.. It sounds like sex nice and deep and is full 2.5" from the time it leaves the header. </TD></TR></TABLE>

What system do you currently have?[

 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by blkitr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i "had" the comptech, it had a nice quiet sound all the time and didn't attract alot of attention looks or sound wise.. The only issue i had with the exhaust is that it was a 2.25in exhaust. I now run a Kteller 2.5" catback with a magnaflow wide open series muffler and a magnaflow high flow cat.. It sounds like sex nice and deep and is full 2.5" from the time it leaves the header. </TD></TR></TABLE>

 

i've had a lot of experience with skunk2 exhausts... well enough to know not to ever buy them again. if you're set on either s2 or comptech... go w/ comptech.

 

i like hytech exhaust too.

RSR exmeg is one of quitest and alright gain exhaust.

*does anybody know how much is hytech muffler?*

 

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Please share your experiences and reasons why You would not buy them again. Because just claiming you had a bad experience and not bothering to list the issues is completely worthless to post when the original poster wants specific information.

 

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If you want to know which is beter here is a test for the headers that you are looking for. http://bob123e.tripod.com/thegreatheadertest/
JDM TODA or SMSP Headers have the highest output in power... as for mugen and hytech they do well also...... But if you look at this JDM DC sports puts out the same amount of power for twice as cheep of price......but if your willing to spend that kind of money i think you should reconsider

 

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If you want to know which is beter here is a test for the headers that you are looking for. http://bob123e.tripod.com/thegreatheadertest/
JDM TODA or SMSP Headers have the highest output in power... as for mugen and hytech they do well also...... But if you look at this JDM DC sports puts out the same amount of power for twice as cheep of price......but if your willing to spend that kind of money i think you should reconsider</TD></TR></TABLE>

He was asking about catback exhausts, not headers. But your intentions are appreciated.

 

Eric... should we meet up this weekend i will take you for a ride in my car. I have the Fuji and love it, you'll understand why when you go for ride. I also have another part you mentioned, that i can show you too