ITR cams in ls???

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Nov 24, 2005 | 10:51 PM

blaxican05

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ITR cams in ls???

i dont know if it cause im tired or what but for some reason i cant remember whether or not you can use itr cams in an ls motor. I searched but didnt find by the way...
so yes or no
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Nov 24, 2005 | 10:58 PM

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Re: ITR cams in ls??? (blaxican05)

of course it works, how else would you make an ls vtec

Nov 24, 2005 | 11:05 PM

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Re: ITR cams in ls??? (PURPLETERROR aka BIGMATT)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PURPLETERROR aka BIGMATT »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">of course it works, how else would you make an ls vtec </TD></TR></TABLE>
using a vtec head (cams dont make a car vtec).... i want to know if they will work in an ls head (a complete stock internaled b18b motor)... im pretty sure they wouldnt but i need some confirmation

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Nov 24, 2005 | 11:21 PM

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Re: ITR cams in ls??? (blaxican05)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by blaxican05 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">\i want to know if they will work in an ls head</TD></TR></TABLE>

No... not even close.

Nov 24, 2005 | 11:38 PM

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Re: ITR cams in ls??? (.RJ)

thanks...

Nov 24, 2005 | 11:57 PM

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Re: ITR cams in ls??? (blaxican05)

Try Crower 404's in your LS. They are similiar in specs to ITR cams, but they are nonvtec cams.

Vtec cams will not fit in a nonvtec head. A vtec head is designed completely different.

Nov 25, 2005 | 12:47 AM

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Re: ITR cams in ls??? (hybrid_vtec)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hybrid_vtec »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Try Crower 404's in your LS. They are similiar in specs to ITR cams, but they are nonvtec cams.

Vtec cams will not fit in a nonvtec head. A vtec head is designed completely different.</TD></TR></TABLE>

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Nov 25, 2005 | 10:05 AM

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Re: ITR cams in ls??? (EVOL)

yeah i was looking at those... there arent many options in cams for an ls

but yeah i think it will end up being crower

Nov 25, 2005 | 10:14 AM

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Re: ITR cams in ls??? (blaxican05)

run a set of crower 403's or 404's with some high compression pistons and tune that bitch you'll be hitting some good Hp #'s

Nov 25, 2005 | 10:18 AM

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Re: ITR cams in ls??? (PURPLETERROR aka BIGMATT)

Nov 25, 2005 | 01:49 PM

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Re: ITR cams in ls??? (blaxican05)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by blaxican05 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah i was looking at those... there arent many options in cams for an ls

but yeah i think it will end up being crower</TD></TR></TABLE>

There is more than you think. You just have to search. There are about 10 companies that make cams for an LS, and each having several profiles too. There is a list posted on Nonvtec.com

Nov 25, 2005 | 02:08 PM

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Re: ITR cams in ls??? (hybrid_vtec)

wow.....

Nov 25, 2005 | 02:48 PM

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Re: ITR cams in ls??? (cubish)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nonvtec.com

Here is a list I put together a few monthes ago. I hope this is helpful for you guys looking for cams. Enjoy!

<FONT SIZE="5">Nonvtec Cams: B18A/B, B20B/Z</FONT>

STOCK B18B:
Intake: 185 degrees @ .050, Lift: .395
Exhaust: 187 degees @ .050, Lift: .380

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CROWER CAMS:
http://www.crower.com

62403:
Advertised Duration: , Lift:
Duration @ .050: , Lift:

Lobe Seperation:

62404-2:
Advertised Duration: 308/305, Lift: .445/.434
Duration @ .050: 226/224, Lift: .254/.248

Lobe Separation: 109 degrees
Valve Clearances: .006/.008 (Cold)

62405:
Intake..... 502 lift @ 252 duration @ .050"
Exhaust ...502 lift @ 252 duration @ .050"

62405a:
Intake..... 476 lift @ 230 duration @ .050"
Exhaust... 467 lift @ 222 duration @ .050"

Recommended Valvesprings:
Part# 68181 Dual Springs
Approx Spring Pressure:
Valve closed: 060/070 LBS.
Valve open: 155/165 LBS.

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CRANE CAMS:
http://www.cranecams.com

101-0012:
Advertised Duration: 232/250, Lift: .400/.388
Duration @ .050: 206/212
109 degrees lobe seperation

101-0014:
Advertised Duration: 232/242, Lift: .400/.388
Duration @ .050: 206/204
Lobe Separation 111

101-0016:
Advertised Duration: 246/246, Lift.433/.433
Duration @ .050: 218/218
Lobe Separation 108

101-0018:
Advertised Duration: 254/254, Lift: .453/.453
Duration @ .050: 226/226, Lift: .250/.250

Lobe Seperation = 104
Valve Clearances: .004/.008 (cold)

101-0020:
-Advertised Duration = 262/262 degrees, Lift: .472/.472
-Duration @ .050" = 234/234
-Lobe Seperation = 108

Recommended Valvesprings:
Part# 903-2000 Dual Springs
Approx Spring Pressure:
Valve closed: 042/042 LBS.
Valve open: 152/152 LBS.

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EXOSPEED:
http://www.exospeed.com

LS909:
Duration @.010 268/254 Lift 400/388
* does not require valvetrain.
* powerband is 3000-7600 RPM

RACE LS:
Duration @.010 268/268 Lift 400/400
* Requires valvetrain upgrade if taking it past stock Rev limit.
* powerband is 3000-8000 RPM

STAGE 4 RACE: (FOR SERIOUS RACERS ONLY)
??????????

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COLT CAMS:
http://www.coltcams.com

LS RACE CAMS:
Intake: duration = 264, Lift: .423
Exhaust: duration = 264, Lift: .423

LS RACE CAMS:
Intake: duration = 278, lift = .432
Exhaust: duration = 278, lift = .423

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JG ENGINE DYNAMICS:
http://www.jgenginedynamics.com

*Valve Clearances for JG Cams(ALL): Intake: .007, Exhaust: .009

3030:
Intake: 250 degrees, Lift: .385
Exhaust: 250 degrees, Lift: .385

1001:
Intake: 260 degrees, Lift: .410
Exhaust: 260 degrees, Lift: .410

301:
Intake: 274 degrees, Lift: .417
Exhaust: 260 degrees, Lift: .408

303:
Intake: 274 degrees, Lift: .417
Exhaust: 274 degrees, Lift: .417

6050:
Intake: 280 degrees, Lift: .442
Exhaust: 274 degrees, Lift: .425

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Web Cams:
http://www.webcaminc.net/

#148E:
Duration @ .050: 210/210 degrees, Lift: .395/.390

#115:
Duration @ .050: 222/222 degrees, Lift: .395/.395

#452:
Duration @ .050: 228/228 degrees, Lift: .410/.405

This list is old. I put it together last year. There are a few other companies that make them now.

One off the top of my head is Rocket Motorsports. You can also look at Gude.

Hope this helps.

Nov 25, 2005 | 10:15 PM

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Re: ITR cams in ls??? (hybrid_vtec)

thanks... i guess i wasnt really looking hard... im looking for something in the 400 doller or less range.

Nov 26, 2005 | 01:53 AM

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Re: ITR cams in ls??? (blaxican05)

Your in luck. nonvtec cams are usually priced around $400 or less. The only compnay I have seen to hit the $500 mark is Crane.

Nov 26, 2005 | 02:28 PM

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Re: ITR cams in ls??? (hybrid_vtec)

yeah you can catch 404's floating around for 300 or less on HT sometimes

Nov 26, 2005 | 10:49 PM

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Re: ITR cams in ls??? (EINSTEIN)

would the crower cams help any with a turbo ls (i plan to turbo around march) or are there better cams to use for that purpose... i mean the most i would do is like 10 psi or up to 300whp

Nov 27, 2005 | 01:46 AM

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Re: ITR cams in ls??? (blaxican05)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by blaxican05 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">would the crower cams help any with a turbo ls (i plan to turbo around march) or are there better cams to use for that purpose... i mean the most i would do is like 10 psi or up to 300whp</TD></TR></TABLE>

Crower makes a set for turbo applications, but I have seen ppl use 403's on a turboed car. Do some research on it.

Nov 27, 2005 | 08:07 AM

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Re: ITR cams in ls??? (hybrid_vtec)

a friend of mines is buliding his ls hatch motor for turbo. right now he is rocking a mild rebuild with a itr tranny. his parts list so far

crower turbo spec cams
blox turbo intake mani
9:0 compression after market forged pistons with golden eagle rods
t/3/t4 turbo kit (not sure what manufacture it's by)
gsr tranny with lsd diff and some other misc... parts

his goal is to hit 300hp also which shouldn't be a problem