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Old Nov 22, 2005 | 03:07 PM
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hi. i have a 2002 accord coupe 4cly manual. i want to lower my car using coilovers. i was wondering, if i just bought a coilover kit, would that be fine? i work at Land Rover and i was talking to one of the mechanics. he was talking to me about how i have a double wishbone suspension on the front and a McPherson set-up on my rear. he said that if i got coilover, i would have to customize my suspension. i dont' know too much about this, but all i know is that coilover=ride height adjustable. thats what i'm looking for. this is the coilover kit i am about to buy. http://www.nopionline.com/nopi...02002
is that all i need?
also, if a coilover kit says 1.5 inch drop, does that mean the 1.5 inch drop is the standard/minimum drop after the install or the maximum drop?
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Old Nov 23, 2005 | 01:33 AM
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Old Nov 23, 2005 | 04:54 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jxi8s2k &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hi. i have a 2002 accord coupe 4cly manual. i want to lower my car using coilovers. i was wondering, if i just bought a coilover kit, would that be fine? i work at Land Rover and i was talking to one of the mechanics. he was talking to me about how i have a double wishbone suspension on the front and a McPherson set-up on my rear. he said that if i got coilover, i would have to customize my suspension. i dont' know too much about this, but all i know is that coilover=ride height adjustable. thats what i'm looking for. this is the coilover kit i am about to buy. http://www.nopionline.com/nopi...02002
is that all i need?
also, if a coilover kit says 1.5 inch drop, does that mean the 1.5 inch drop is the standard/minimum drop after the install or the maximum drop?</TD></TR></TABLE>


Word of advice... don't let the landrover guys work on your car, they care clueless about the suspension.

Yor car has double wishbones in the front and a mulit-link setup in the rear, there are no mcpherson struts on your car at all only shocks. A Threaded bodies shock, or Sleeve kit would lower your car just fine.
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Old Nov 23, 2005 | 08:51 AM
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does everyone agree?
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Old Nov 23, 2005 | 08:54 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jxi8s2k &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">does everyone agree?</TD></TR></TABLE>

with what? The fact that your car has a multi-link suspension in the rear? Yes, it does.
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Old Nov 23, 2005 | 08:55 AM
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man i don't know anything about threaded bodies shocks or sleeve kits. i googled it but i can't find anything. can you be more detailed or show me some links? thanks man.
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Old Nov 23, 2005 | 08:56 AM
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nahh...i just don't know where to buy the stuff. i never heard of the stuff hes talking about. i'm sorry if i'm not a pro at suspension. thats why i need some help.
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Old Nov 23, 2005 | 09:26 AM
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that kit in the link isn't an adjustable height coilover kit. It lowers the car 1.5". In reality your car already has "coilovers". Any shock that has the spring placed over it rather in a seperate location is referd to as a coilover shock configuration.

Many people refer to threaded body coilovers as just coilovers. Threaded body coilovers will allow height adjustment. If you want/need height adjustment then the kit in the link isn't going to help.
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Old Nov 23, 2005 | 09:45 AM
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If the only thing you want is "height adjustability", call up Ground-Control Suspension Systems. They sell the adjustable spring/sleeve kits that your looking for. The best part about their system is that you can get it with any spring rate you want. I'm guessing you still want the car to feel soft like stock right? Well tell them that & they will hook you up with the proper spring rates to give you the feel you want...

All that for about $320...

Beyond the coil-over sleeves, the only other thing you will need to buy as an alignment. And don't let those shops tell you need camber kits. Just setting the Toe back to "Zero" will be good enough to keep your tires from wearing out...

http://www.ground-control-store.com
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Old Nov 23, 2005 | 02:16 PM
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hey thanks man. i'm gonna check out ground control. i thought all coilover set-ups were heigh-adjustable.
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Old Nov 23, 2005 | 02:30 PM
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oh and also, when i went to the order page, it asks what type of struts your riding on. you can use those coilovers with the stock shocks without having problems? if i drop the car about 2 inches, won't the shocks blow out real soon?
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Old Nov 23, 2005 | 02:52 PM
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I drove my civic lowered almost 3 inches for 5 years. All my shocks were fine when I finally swaped them for Koni Sports. The trick is to driver VERY carefully & know the roads (vegas streets are pretty nice though). If your in unknown territory, you must always keep an eye out.

Also: As long as you don't get high spring rates, your stock shocks will keep you from bouncing all over the place. If your looking for a good street ride quality, then your stock shocks will be just fine (doesn't hurt to keep an eye on them though)...
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Old Nov 23, 2005 | 03:03 PM
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when you say drive carefully, do you mean avoid pot holes? or do you mean don't take hard turns off exit ramps and stuff?
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Old Nov 23, 2005 | 07:25 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jxi8s2k &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">when you say drive carefully, do you mean avoid pot holes? or do you mean don't take hard turns off exit ramps and stuff?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I believe he is talking about the former; but the latter is a good idea no matter what.
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Old Nov 23, 2005 | 08:14 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PIC Performance &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I believe he is talking about the former; but the latter is a good idea no matter what. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah, pot holes & nasty dips will destroy your shocks. Hard cornering definently will not. Always drive safely on public streets though...
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Old Nov 24, 2005 | 08:47 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jxi8s2k &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">he said that if i got coilover, i would have to customize my suspension. </TD></TR></TABLE>

will the ground control coilovers provide everything for the set-up to be a direct bolt on? will there be any customization required?
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Old Nov 24, 2005 | 09:00 AM
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Old Nov 24, 2005 | 09:31 AM
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is that a yes, it will be a direct bolt-on or no, customization is required.
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Old Nov 24, 2005 | 11:55 AM
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I agree
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Old Nov 25, 2005 | 03:36 AM
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can anyone answer my question please?
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Old Nov 25, 2005 | 07:43 AM
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You may have to cut your stock bumpstop in half and cut or remove the stock dust boot if you have one (I haven't put these on an accord). Your best bet would be to call Ground Control and tell them what you're looking for, then ask them what the installation entails. They are helpful people .
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Old Nov 26, 2005 | 03:29 AM
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cool. i'll call them up.
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