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Old Nov 18, 2005 | 01:57 PM
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i started noticing this about a month ago. after about 15 minutes of driving and i want to come to a stop, i press on the brake pedal. but then after i come to a stop i can continue to press the pedal all the way down to the bottom. it's not exactly "mushy." when i drive other cars the pedal stops at some point before the very bottom.

my brake fluid reservoir is full and i did recently do a brake fluid change. i would think that the brake bleeder blots are tight, otherwise i'd have no pressure when i press the brakes. i don't hear noise coming from my brakes so i don't think i need to change my brakes. i do notice a smell after driving usually.

does anyone have any idea what's going on? could it be my master brake cylinder?
do i need new brakes? brake lines?

it's a 94 GSR with 146,000 mi. thanks in advance.
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Old Nov 18, 2005 | 02:52 PM
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Bleed the brakes, there might be some air bubbles in the lines. As for the smell, maybe you have a sezied caliper, but im not really sure.

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Old Nov 18, 2005 | 02:56 PM
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i did that before. i'm not sure if that was before or after i noticed this problem. i did do it on the van that same day and that car has no problems...so i assume i did it correctly.

hmmm..seized caliper....how do i "unseize" it?
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Old Nov 18, 2005 | 03:06 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pineapplemike &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">.so i assume i did it correctly.

hmmm..seized caliper....how do i "unseize" it?</TD></TR></TABLE>

You would need to purchase a new caliper, if it really is seized, inspect your rotor fully. When you bled your brakes, did you bleed them in sequential order? With the first line being the furthest from the MC
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Old Nov 18, 2005 | 03:33 PM
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yeah i did in order starting with the furthest away.
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Old Nov 18, 2005 | 03:34 PM
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Really sounds like your bRake master cylinder is gone.
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Old Nov 18, 2005 | 03:37 PM
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how many miles should i get with a master brake cylinder?

how easy is it to replace, $ and time?

i was out of the country for about 2 years and the car didn't get driven. would this have anything to do with it?
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Old Nov 18, 2005 | 11:16 PM
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Yep, seals break down. Mileage? there is no mileage estimate. Just keep this in mind when you've exhausted all other possibilities.
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Old Nov 19, 2005 | 10:13 AM
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Bleed your brakes again dude. i'll bet you there is air in the lines.
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Old Nov 19, 2005 | 12:25 PM
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yeah i'll bleed them again. don't want to buy a new $200+ master brake cylinder if i don't have to.
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Old Nov 21, 2005 | 03:01 PM
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in most cases its your BMC, if youve tried bleeding your lines again and the problem persists i would suggest replacing the BMC, and dont go to the junk yard and purchase a used, always purchase a new one. you'll feel the difference. check and make sure your brake booster is up to par.
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Old Nov 21, 2005 | 03:10 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TopFuel+DC2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> and dont go to the junk yard and purchase a used, always purchase a new one. you'll feel the difference. check and make sure your brake booster is up to par.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Ive purchased a used one before and it works perfectly fine....but in my case I upgraded to the MC with a 1 stamp on it
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Old Nov 21, 2005 | 03:23 PM
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i bled my brakes again. it was feeling good but i think the problem is coming back. i'll see how it is after driving it around a couple more days.

anyone know of good websites to buy a new BMC? thanks.
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Old Nov 21, 2005 | 03:31 PM
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This has happened to two of my cars. It was the master cylinder both times. I just went out and bought them from advance auto parts. I've put plenty of miles on mine, prolly like 70000 miles on it, no probs. Cost like 35 bucks. Easy install too.
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Old Nov 21, 2005 | 03:44 PM
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where did you get them for $35?

the cheapest i found was $189.
http://www.maximumautoparts.co....html

do i need a new brake booster?
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Old Nov 21, 2005 | 03:54 PM
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Sorry, I was mistaken...the price was $90 from Autozone. But you get back $30 for the core charge.
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Old Nov 21, 2005 | 03:55 PM
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I didn't replace the brake booster. Mine is still working fine with 217,000 miles
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Old Nov 21, 2005 | 03:57 PM
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this happens to me right now on lile on flat ground or a large angle on little angles brakes hold fine but the pedal will sink to the floor and it wont hold the car and the car will roll what gives?
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Old Nov 21, 2005 | 04:12 PM
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is this the one you bought? there are 4 of them listed on their website.
CARDONE 11-2700 1 YR $40.00 $88.03

http://autozone.com/servlet/Ui...ync=6

btw, what's core value?
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Old Nov 21, 2005 | 04:23 PM
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Yeah, that's pretty much what I got. The core value is the amount you have to pay along with the purchase of the part. Once you give them your old part, then they'll send you back the money for the core value
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Old Nov 21, 2005 | 04:29 PM
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thanks a lot for the info. it seems like it should be easy to change out.

you wouldn't happen to know where i can find instructions to do it?

the cardone one looks like this right? bc the other one costs 2.5 times more.

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Old Nov 21, 2005 | 04:32 PM
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It costs more because it is brand new. These are remanufactured BMC's. They are old ones that have been rebuilt back to specs with new seals. They seem to be pretty good. Like I said, mine has lasted for awhile, and it's not showing any signs of weakness.
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Old Nov 21, 2005 | 04:36 PM
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ok, thanks alot for replying back so many times!
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Old Nov 21, 2005 | 04:37 PM
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That's what I'm here for. To give/recieve info, and help ppl out
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Old Nov 21, 2005 | 04:38 PM
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make sure you get the correct BM for your app.
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