3rd gear grinds
Anytime im in high rpm and i shift to third it grinds while going in. Can my act stage clutch have anything to do with it? Also when i ride my clutch it makes a screetching noise. Is this very bad?
i had the similar problem with my 94 coupe. but mine was a 4th gear grind at high revs. what i did one day was change my tranny fluid to the GM syncro mesh. and gone no more grind. stuff is awesome!
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Archidictus »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Your input and/or throwout bearings are shot and your synchros are starting to go. End of thread, woot!</TD></TR></TABLE>
Umm, i think the screech (sp?) is just from having the upgraded clutch, is it a 6 puck? because mine does the same exact thing when i slip it, do you have an upgraded flywheel? my input/throwout bearings are fine its just a quick noise that happens when slipping it(usually just riding it out of first correct?), even my boy wit a brand new tranny and stage 5 clutch says it happens to him...
As per the grind try some gm syncromesh mine just started with the same thing and the Honda Mtf aint cutting it right now, imma use the Gm stuff and see what results it gives......
Now you may end the thread!
Umm, i think the screech (sp?) is just from having the upgraded clutch, is it a 6 puck? because mine does the same exact thing when i slip it, do you have an upgraded flywheel? my input/throwout bearings are fine its just a quick noise that happens when slipping it(usually just riding it out of first correct?), even my boy wit a brand new tranny and stage 5 clutch says it happens to him...
As per the grind try some gm syncromesh mine just started with the same thing and the Honda Mtf aint cutting it right now, imma use the Gm stuff and see what results it gives......
Now you may end the thread!
yea dude that's the most common fault with honda tranny's. they always screw up in third gear. it seems that about twenty percent of people i talk to with a b series tranny has the same prob.
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i dont know about that.... im thinkin its the throw out bearing
as to the origional poster its your syncros... never tried it but gm syncro mesh coould help... try the passwordjdm magnetic drain plug too.
i dont know about that.... im thinkin its the throw out bearing
as to the origional poster its your syncros... never tried it but gm syncro mesh coould help... try the passwordjdm magnetic drain plug too.
Yeah i think i might go with the gm syncromesh for now and see what happens. Where do i get this stuff though? IF it fails though, would i still be able to save my tranny or would i have to get a new one?
Geeze... people around here really do drop IQ points everyday, huh?
Look, you posted a problem and asked if it was related to the clutch. Could the screeching have to do with it? Maybe. Its a lot more likely that its the bearings as has already been mentioned... but then again, you guys NEVER want to hear the real cause of a problem, just the easiest, gayest, oakiest way to resolve it.
I like how people say how Hondas are "notorious" for third gear problems. The people making these comments obviously have 0 experience with manual transmission and have never seen the internal workings. I mean, these are afterall the same people who are willing to accept that some majic fluid has "resolved" thier grinding issue. The synchro ring has teeth on the inside of it. The job of the teeth is to "cut" through the oil on the shaft and lock into place. When the teeth become dull, they no longer cut as easy. Obviously, the problem will only get worse with time. Why does synchromesh seem to "work" so well? Well, my guess would be that the viscosity of the oil is thinner then that of Honda MTF. Since I don't know for sure, its nothing more then an educated guess. The teeth on all the synchros is made out of the same material. The hub they lock against is again the same material for all 5 gears. So please explain what part of this makes the transmission "notorious" for failure in one specific gear? Might have to do with the large number of douchebags who think they are a proffesional race car driver. I would lean more towards driver error then design flaws, but hey, what do I know. So, if you want to dump some fluid in your tranny and then rave about how it solved your issue, go ahead. Do not spread false information though about how it "fixed" your issue. I can assure you, there are no majic small mites that went in there and sharpened the teeth on the synchro for you. If you want to resolve the issue the CORRECT way, replace the synchros. While you are in there, you can inspect the bearings also and then see if we are full of it regarding those also.
Look, you posted a problem and asked if it was related to the clutch. Could the screeching have to do with it? Maybe. Its a lot more likely that its the bearings as has already been mentioned... but then again, you guys NEVER want to hear the real cause of a problem, just the easiest, gayest, oakiest way to resolve it.
I like how people say how Hondas are "notorious" for third gear problems. The people making these comments obviously have 0 experience with manual transmission and have never seen the internal workings. I mean, these are afterall the same people who are willing to accept that some majic fluid has "resolved" thier grinding issue. The synchro ring has teeth on the inside of it. The job of the teeth is to "cut" through the oil on the shaft and lock into place. When the teeth become dull, they no longer cut as easy. Obviously, the problem will only get worse with time. Why does synchromesh seem to "work" so well? Well, my guess would be that the viscosity of the oil is thinner then that of Honda MTF. Since I don't know for sure, its nothing more then an educated guess. The teeth on all the synchros is made out of the same material. The hub they lock against is again the same material for all 5 gears. So please explain what part of this makes the transmission "notorious" for failure in one specific gear? Might have to do with the large number of douchebags who think they are a proffesional race car driver. I would lean more towards driver error then design flaws, but hey, what do I know. So, if you want to dump some fluid in your tranny and then rave about how it solved your issue, go ahead. Do not spread false information though about how it "fixed" your issue. I can assure you, there are no majic small mites that went in there and sharpened the teeth on the synchro for you. If you want to resolve the issue the CORRECT way, replace the synchros. While you are in there, you can inspect the bearings also and then see if we are full of it regarding those also.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hybrid93Eg »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Geeze... people around here really do drop IQ points everyday, huh?
Look, you posted a problem and asked if it was related to the clutch. Could the screeching have to do with it? Maybe. Its a lot more likely that its the bearings as has already been mentioned... but then again, you guys NEVER want to hear the real cause of a problem, just the easiest, gayest, oakiest way to resolve it.
I like how people say how Hondas are "notorious" for third gear problems. The people making these comments obviously have 0 experience with manual transmission and have never seen the internal workings. I mean, these are afterall the same people who are willing to accept that some majic fluid has "resolved" thier grinding issue. The synchro ring has teeth on the inside of it. The job of the teeth is to "cut" through the oil on the shaft and lock into place. When the teeth become dull, they no longer cut as easy. Obviously, the problem will only get worse with time. Why does synchromesh seem to "work" so well? Well, my guess would be that the viscosity of the oil is thinner then that of Honda MTF. Since I don't know for sure, its nothing more then an educated guess. The teeth on all the synchros is made out of the same material. The hub they lock against is again the same material for all 5 gears. So please explain what part of this makes the transmission "notorious" for failure in one specific gear? Might have to do with the large number of douchebags who think they are a proffesional race car driver. I would lean more towards driver error then design flaws, but hey, what do I know. So, if you want to dump some fluid in your tranny and then rave about how it solved your issue, go ahead. Do not spread false information though about how it "fixed" your issue. I can assure you, there are no majic small mites that went in there and sharpened the teeth on the synchro for you. If you want to resolve the issue the CORRECT way, replace the synchros. While you are in there, you can inspect the bearings also and then see if we are full of it regarding those also.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Here here chap!!!.....bloody well put!!!
Look, you posted a problem and asked if it was related to the clutch. Could the screeching have to do with it? Maybe. Its a lot more likely that its the bearings as has already been mentioned... but then again, you guys NEVER want to hear the real cause of a problem, just the easiest, gayest, oakiest way to resolve it.
I like how people say how Hondas are "notorious" for third gear problems. The people making these comments obviously have 0 experience with manual transmission and have never seen the internal workings. I mean, these are afterall the same people who are willing to accept that some majic fluid has "resolved" thier grinding issue. The synchro ring has teeth on the inside of it. The job of the teeth is to "cut" through the oil on the shaft and lock into place. When the teeth become dull, they no longer cut as easy. Obviously, the problem will only get worse with time. Why does synchromesh seem to "work" so well? Well, my guess would be that the viscosity of the oil is thinner then that of Honda MTF. Since I don't know for sure, its nothing more then an educated guess. The teeth on all the synchros is made out of the same material. The hub they lock against is again the same material for all 5 gears. So please explain what part of this makes the transmission "notorious" for failure in one specific gear? Might have to do with the large number of douchebags who think they are a proffesional race car driver. I would lean more towards driver error then design flaws, but hey, what do I know. So, if you want to dump some fluid in your tranny and then rave about how it solved your issue, go ahead. Do not spread false information though about how it "fixed" your issue. I can assure you, there are no majic small mites that went in there and sharpened the teeth on the synchro for you. If you want to resolve the issue the CORRECT way, replace the synchros. While you are in there, you can inspect the bearings also and then see if we are full of it regarding those also.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Here here chap!!!.....bloody well put!!!
Would it be good to use the gm synchromesh temporarily(just for the winter) and when comes spring take out my tranny and fix what ever needs to be fixed?
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Yes, you COULD do that.. but just don't think that you have solved anything. There will still be the chance for increased wear and possibly other problems as a result. When things break, you fix them. Running the GM synchromesh is just like adding straight 50w to your engine because you have a rod knock
Yes, you COULD do that.. but just don't think that you have solved anything. There will still be the chance for increased wear and possibly other problems as a result. When things break, you fix them. Running the GM synchromesh is just like adding straight 50w to your engine because you have a rod knock
Is the tranny hard to work on? I never really did any major work on my car. Im not gonna pay a dirty mechanic to work on my car either
. What would you suggest doing to get started on fixing this problem. Where can I get a book with a daigram of my tranny? About how much would this cost? What would be more effiecient and a little less money to do: Buy a new tranny or fiix the one i have? Hopefully i didn't ask you to many questions. Thank you.
. What would you suggest doing to get started on fixing this problem. Where can I get a book with a daigram of my tranny? About how much would this cost? What would be more effiecient and a little less money to do: Buy a new tranny or fiix the one i have? Hopefully i didn't ask you to many questions. Thank you.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tealeg88 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Is the tranny hard to work on? I never really did any major work on my car. Im not gonna pay a dirty mechanic to work on my car either
. What would you suggest doing to get started on fixing this problem. Where can I get a book with a daigram of my tranny? About how much would this cost? What would be more effiecient and a little less money to do: Buy a new tranny or fiix the one i have? Hopefully i didn't ask you to many questions. Thank you.</TD></TR></TABLE>
You listen, then you decide..
I got almost my whole Z6 swap for $150. The tranny, engine, everything had 200k miles on it. Likewise, the tranny ground 3rd gear when you shifted aroun 6,800 or above. I went to pick and pull, found me a DX transmission, took the synchros out of it. It took about 10 mins. I came home, dropped my tranny and put the synchros in it within about 3 hours had it back in the car and running. Problem solved for $2 entry to pick and pull. Synchros are free, sign read "pick and steal" that day. Trannys are seriously not hard. Its a bunch of gears, nuts, colors, syncros, bolts, springs, etc. If you pay attention, lay things out and READ, its not that hard. Honestly, if you plan to just go out and shell out the money for a new tranmission, why don't you at least TRY to fix yours first. The worse thing is you will still need to buy a new one, right? Whats it going to hurt? If you o fix it for the cost of new synchros, I still think you are ahead. Buying another used tranny is just another craps shoot, wouldn't you agree?
. What would you suggest doing to get started on fixing this problem. Where can I get a book with a daigram of my tranny? About how much would this cost? What would be more effiecient and a little less money to do: Buy a new tranny or fiix the one i have? Hopefully i didn't ask you to many questions. Thank you.</TD></TR></TABLE>You listen, then you decide..
I got almost my whole Z6 swap for $150. The tranny, engine, everything had 200k miles on it. Likewise, the tranny ground 3rd gear when you shifted aroun 6,800 or above. I went to pick and pull, found me a DX transmission, took the synchros out of it. It took about 10 mins. I came home, dropped my tranny and put the synchros in it within about 3 hours had it back in the car and running. Problem solved for $2 entry to pick and pull. Synchros are free, sign read "pick and steal" that day. Trannys are seriously not hard. Its a bunch of gears, nuts, colors, syncros, bolts, springs, etc. If you pay attention, lay things out and READ, its not that hard. Honestly, if you plan to just go out and shell out the money for a new tranmission, why don't you at least TRY to fix yours first. The worse thing is you will still need to buy a new one, right? Whats it going to hurt? If you o fix it for the cost of new synchros, I still think you are ahead. Buying another used tranny is just another craps shoot, wouldn't you agree?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dso »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yea dude that's the most common fault with honda tranny's. they always screw up in third gear.</TD></TR></TABLE>
OMG... that is the best statement ever.
just for the record:
THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH HONDA THIRD GEARS/SYNCHROS!!! there is no manufacture defects, just a bunch of fucktards that cannot shift correctly, and they fugg up trannies. i have had about 20 hondas in the past 15 years, and NONE of them had 3rd gear issues. 3rd gear is the most common misshift, so of course it will get beat on/worn faster then the other gears. my 99 si has 164,000 miles and ZERO grindage issues. ****, it even has the stock clutch still.
OMG... that is the best statement ever.
just for the record:THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH HONDA THIRD GEARS/SYNCHROS!!! there is no manufacture defects, just a bunch of fucktards that cannot shift correctly, and they fugg up trannies. i have had about 20 hondas in the past 15 years, and NONE of them had 3rd gear issues. 3rd gear is the most common misshift, so of course it will get beat on/worn faster then the other gears. my 99 si has 164,000 miles and ZERO grindage issues. ****, it even has the stock clutch still.
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