designing subframe reinforcement for EK
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designing subframe reinforcement for EK
designing subframe reinforcement for EK
Should i have the sway bar mounted on the outer side of the brace plate or in the same holes as the orginal...
Differences are here
Outside
Use original
Im trying to STOP this as it happen to me once!
Should i have the sway bar mounted on the outer side of the brace plate or in the same holes as the orginal...
Differences are here
Outside
Use original
Im trying to STOP this as it happen to me once!
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Re: designing subframe reinforcement for EK (Civic168)
I think you should just buy the kit you are trying to copy! 
http://a-spec-racing.com/products.php
The brace is VERY well designed, and more thought went into it's design than you can even imagine.
The brace only cost 180 bucks! Not sure how much your time is worth to you, but it's going to take you much longer to come up with your own brace than the 180 bucks you'll save!
Just buy one, you wont be sorry...
Modified by prkiller at 8:30 AM 11/17/2005
http://a-spec-racing.com/products.php
The brace is VERY well designed, and more thought went into it's design than you can even imagine.
The brace only cost 180 bucks! Not sure how much your time is worth to you, but it's going to take you much longer to come up with your own brace than the 180 bucks you'll save!
Just buy one, you wont be sorry...
Modified by prkiller at 8:30 AM 11/17/2005
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Re: designing subframe reinforcement for EK (Civic168)
Both design will work and is a matter of preference. Mounting it outwards will enable to you mount the swaybar a bit higher for better swaybar arm angle.
While mounting it on the same locations as the subframe holes will mount the swaybar a bit lower, this also will increase the clearance to the exhaust muffler pipe.
Ideally, you want to have the swaybar brackets mounted as far out and as close to the 90° bend, where the swaybar arm is. A good example is to look at how EF and DA rear bars are mounted. Mounting it this way makes the swaybar more rigid and increasing its effectiveness.
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Charleston
While mounting it on the same locations as the subframe holes will mount the swaybar a bit lower, this also will increase the clearance to the exhaust muffler pipe.
Ideally, you want to have the swaybar brackets mounted as far out and as close to the 90° bend, where the swaybar arm is. A good example is to look at how EF and DA rear bars are mounted. Mounting it this way makes the swaybar more rigid and increasing its effectiveness.
Regards,
Charleston
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Re: designing subframe reinforcement for EK (Civic168)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Civic168 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah but mouutning it further out would cause more pressure on the outer top knuckle.. where from the picture, is the weakest point 
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I think they guy who made both of the kits in the pics above (CivicFerio) might know a thing or two about reinforcing the subframe.
Like he said either way will work. They (a-spec-racing) place the mounts further out on their 32mm hollow sway bar setup and in the stock location on their ITR setup.
</TD></TR></TABLE>I think they guy who made both of the kits in the pics above (CivicFerio) might know a thing or two about reinforcing the subframe.
Like he said either way will work. They (a-spec-racing) place the mounts further out on their 32mm hollow sway bar setup and in the stock location on their ITR setup.
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Re: designing subframe reinforcement for EK (nonsense)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nonsense »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I think they guy who made both of the kits in the pics above (CivicFerio) might know a thing or two about reinforcing the subframe.
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Exactly. What a classy guy. He responded to your post, and your trying to design a brace like the one he already made!
I think they guy who made both of the kits in the pics above (CivicFerio) might know a thing or two about reinforcing the subframe.
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Exactly. What a classy guy. He responded to your post, and your trying to design a brace like the one he already made!
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by projectTeG »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">might i ask what suspension set up you are running?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Who? What car?
Who? What car?
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Is that reinforcement aluminum? Make it out of steel, its 3 times stiffer. My shop teacher won't allow me to use any aluminum on the suspension cause its not stiff enough. Go with a tubular steel reinforcemenet.
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Re: (Redline96LX)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Redline96LX »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Is that reinforcement aluminum? Make it out of steel, its 3 times stiffer. My shop teacher won't allow me to use any aluminum on the suspension cause its not stiff enough. Go with a tubular steel reinforcemenet.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Sorry, but your shop teacher is a moron (most are). Aluminum is plenty strong enough for suspension components, just ask Honda, Porsche, Chevrolet, etc. All of them have Alum suspension parts on production cars.
Sorry, but your shop teacher is a moron (most are). Aluminum is plenty strong enough for suspension components, just ask Honda, Porsche, Chevrolet, etc. All of them have Alum suspension parts on production cars.
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Re: designing subframe reinforcement for EK (blackstar)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by blackstar »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what set up were u running when u tore ur subframe? sway bar diameter? beaks kit?</TD></TR></TABLE>
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