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Old Nov 16, 2005 | 03:48 PM
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I'm going to be getting a d16z6 from my neighbor with 150k miles. I just want to know what should be done to it before putting it in my hatch? Tranny help also.

I'm not looking for any performance gains, its just for a daily driver. Hoping to achieve just stock hp. Reliability is most important right now. So all OEM parts or if there are some better parts that are about the same price as OEM, then I can check into it.

So basically, a full tune up and rebuild to like when it first came out of the factory. Thanks for any kind of help.
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Old Nov 17, 2005 | 10:45 PM
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Any help?
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Old Nov 18, 2005 | 11:07 AM
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Hmmm I dont know what your asking? It seems you are going to rebuild it.. thats good.. If your question is "Are there any parts that offer OEM performance that are better than OEM at the same price?" Answer is No. OEM is best for factory spec.

Have a great one.
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Old Nov 18, 2005 | 11:19 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by all_conference &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm going to be getting a d16z6 from my neighbor with 150k miles. I just want to know what should be done to it before putting it in my hatch? Tranny help also.

I'm not looking for any performance gains, its just for a daily driver. Hoping to achieve just stock hp. Reliability is most important right now. So all OEM parts or if there are some better parts that are about the same price as OEM, then I can check into it.

So basically, a full tune up and rebuild to like when it first came out of the factory. Thanks for any kind of help.</TD></TR></TABLE>

You want my opinion? You prolly won't when you are done reading. This is back to the old "OEM is best" craptastic arguement. Look, if you want to spend more on the engine then its worth, sure, rebuild with OEM parts just so you can rest easy at night. To me, ACL bearings work perfectly fine. I've used them MANY times in a wide variety of applications/power levels and have never had a single issue. I got my ACL's for my Z6 for $50. Rods/Mains/Thrust. You are going to spend I would say around $200 for the same parts from Honda. As far as rings, I used Nippon rings. OEM supplier, just as good in my mind for this stupid D series. Total cost, $30 for all 4 cylinders. OEM rings? $100. You see where this is going? If you want to argue about how the aftermarket parts won't hold up, I will be happy to report back in a year after my turbo has been put on and let you know how they all hold up. I have no worries that they will last just as long as the OEM parts would.
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Old Nov 18, 2005 | 01:51 PM
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I don't know much about these things so I came here for help. OEM seems to be the likely choice for a reliable rebuild, so thats that. Price is a concerned, thats why I didn't want alternatives, unless OEM is more expensive then the alternatives.
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Old Nov 18, 2005 | 01:59 PM
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Just toss new OEM bearings in it (be sure to plastigauge first), new water pump, timing belt, tensioner, cap/rotor/wires/plugs, maybe coil if you want.

That'll do you for a good long time.
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Old Nov 18, 2005 | 04:43 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hybrid93Eg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

You want my opinion? You prolly won't when you are done reading. This is back to the old "OEM is best" craptastic arguement. Look, if you want to spend more on the engine then its worth, sure, rebuild with OEM parts just so you can rest easy at night. To me, ACL bearings work perfectly fine. I've used them MANY times in a wide variety of applications/power levels and have never had a single issue. I got my ACL's for my Z6 for $50. Rods/Mains/Thrust. You are going to spend I would say around $200 for the same parts from Honda. As far as rings, I used Nippon rings. OEM supplier, just as good in my mind for this stupid D series. Total cost, $30 for all 4 cylinders. OEM rings? $100. You see where this is going? If you want to argue about how the aftermarket parts won't hold up, I will be happy to report back in a year after my turbo has been put on and let you know how they all hold up. I have no worries that they will last just as long as the OEM parts would.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Omg, what the hell was that about? He came here asking for help, not for your attitude.
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Old Nov 18, 2005 | 04:45 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hybrid93Eg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You want my opinion? You prolly won't when you are done reading. This is back to the old "OEM is best" craptastic arguement. Look, if you want to spend more on the engine then its worth, sure, rebuild with OEM parts just so you can rest easy at night. To me, ACL bearings work perfectly fine. I've used them MANY times in a wide variety of applications/power levels and have never had a single issue. I got my ACL's for my Z6 for $50. Rods/Mains/Thrust. You are going to spend I would say around $200 for the same parts from Honda. As far as rings, I used Nippon rings. OEM supplier, just as good in my mind for this stupid D series. Total cost, $30 for all 4 cylinders. OEM rings? $100. You see where this is going? If you want to argue about how the aftermarket parts won't hold up, I will be happy to report back in a year after my turbo has been put on and let you know how they all hold up. I have no worries that they will last just as long as the OEM parts would.</TD></TR></TABLE>

There's nothing wrong with using aftermarket parts, but I know for a fact - and from first hand experience - that Honda bearings are incredible. Coupled with spark plug wires, they're probably the only two OEM components I wouldn't go elsewhere to replace .
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Old Nov 18, 2005 | 04:54 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Archidictus &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

There's nothing wrong with using aftermarket parts, but I know for a fact - and from first hand experience - that Honda bearings are incredible. Coupled with spark plug wires, they're probably the only two OEM components I wouldn't go elsewhere to replace .</TD></TR></TABLE>

They are better, I will agree... Since I hate D series to begin with, I went with the cheaper alternative. When I built my all motor B, I used OEM's. I have used aftermarkets before for other peoples build at thier request and haven't ever had an issue. To me, it came down to cost. D series isn't worth much to begin with... so when the rebuild exceeds the cost of a replacement, to me its not worth it...
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Old Nov 18, 2005 | 04:54 PM
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Omg, what the hell was that about? He came here asking for help, not for your attitude. </TD></TR></TABLE>

And what "help" was your post to this topic? mmmmmmmkay..
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Old Nov 18, 2005 | 05:19 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hybrid93Eg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">They are better, I will agree... Since I hate D series to begin with, I went with the cheaper alternative. When I built my all motor B, I used OEM's. I have used aftermarkets before for other peoples build at thier request and haven't ever had an issue. To me, it came down to cost. D series isn't worth much to begin with... so when the rebuild exceeds the cost of a replacement, to me its not worth it... </TD></TR></TABLE>

Your logic is perfectly sound. Now if you could work on that temper a lil bit
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Old Nov 20, 2005 | 02:15 PM
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d-series not even worth to rebuild even for a daily driver?
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Old Nov 20, 2005 | 02:55 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by all_conference &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">d-series not even worth to rebuild even for a daily driver?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Just depends I guess... I mean, for my "application" I wanted a fresh bottom end to beat on. I plan to keep this setup for a while unless I get fortunate enough to blow it up from abuse... I used aftermarket parts for my rebuild so it wasn't to unrealistic in terms of price. Its just entirely up to you. "replacement" D series crap is a dime a dozen, thats for sure.
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Old Nov 20, 2005 | 04:52 PM
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Hybridg93EG, got any tips for the rebuild? Name brands to use? Total price of rebuild?
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